Yes /No? Freightliner Cascadia DD15 with DEF

first of all, it it CRD engine with weak fuel system, like maxxforce, but I'd say Mercedes built this engine better the MAN D28 (really Maxxforce is MAN D28 engine, DD15 is MB OM471).

SCR/DEF - is a thing that injects AdBlue (carbomide) in cat. converter. It is additional tank, heaters, pump, and all other stuff I'd say not reliable and expencive too, so If you do not want to ride to Cali and other "green areas" I'd avoid DEF engines, nut becouse of Cali you have to get EPA2010 oe later engine, so all they are have DEF, exept of Maxxforce with advanced EGR and exaust filter (really it is MAN Kat system), but seems to me they will use SCR/DEF too soon, lke MAN does it in Europe now

 

I agree on the Maxxforce thing, Pablo. They bought a large interest in Amminex. A Dutch company that has a location also in Canada. Amminex developed a solid block cartridge of urea in a salt substrate. It is heated and releases the urea/ammonia into the exhaust stream in the same way that the DEF is used. Supposedly, the block would only need replaced at regular service interval. Spare blocks have no shelf life and could be carried in truck cargo compartment if needed. Sounds like an alright deal, and in many ways, better than the DEF method. I figure Navistar sees the writing on the wall. It does match up with their "no driver intervention" concept when it comes to emissions control. They could put this unit on the trucks and still make their claims about driver not having to do anything and no DEF required.

As to your other point. No California for me since 1998. And a new 2013 FL glider truck with pre-EGR Series 60 in it on order with expected delivery in July. What a country!

 

more about Maxxforce - they use PM Kat catalistic converter. It is enought for Euro-IV and EPA2010 but not for future emission laws.

DD 11/13/15/16 with Mercedes Blue Tech are ready for up to Euro-6 and future Cali emissions. So IMO, MAN use DEF in Europe, so Maxxforce will get DEF in US soon.

Cummins and Paccar MX are all with DEF worldwide.

 

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some video how MAN and Mercedes emissin stuff works

 

If you are only looking at resale, you are going about it all wrong. The general idea of spec'ing out a custom glider truck is to have a truck that is spec'd ideally for your operation and you will run for a very long time. You would have the ideal truck spec'd just the way you have always wanted a truck. And, even then, you tell me...... would you prefer to buy a pre-emissions truck or one stacked with all the junk we have just described? A potential buyer, who is savvy to the emissions stuff, would have no problem buying a used glider that had been taken care of any less than a regular production truck. Even if they had to rebuild the engine. Any well cared for pre-emission truck is getting top dollar. Not sure how a glider would be any different.

I am not sure how some have come to believe that a glider would be less of a value than a regular production truck. The entire truck, minus the engine and tranny, is all brand new just like any other new truck from the factory. A factory rebuilt engine and factory rebuilt transmission.... all complete with the same warranty as any new truck.... and you have essentially a brand new truck just like any other. I have 16 pages of spec sheets on my glider order and I have spec'd this truck in more detail than most spec a regular new truck. If one were to spec out a new emissions type truck with the same detail as I have done this one, they couldn't come in for less than $150K (I checked two new truck models for comparison). My glider order, loaded to the gills, is coming in at $110K. I doubt it would resell for any less than a compatible new truck, yet it is roughly $40K cheaper to begin with. Even if it got less at resale, it is a whole lot cheaper to buy, run, and maintain. Either way, I will be ahead.

 

I always would have thought that a glider would have a higher resale. You know the thing is going to get babied from day one until they decide to sell it.

 

Congrats on the glider purchse!! I was trying to get in to Crossville today but it was after 5pm by the time i got to the 75/40 split so I kept going north, no use getting there after close... will make it one day. As soon as I get a little more liquid and recover from the year and cash I lost on the Crapcadia I'm going to really look at a Fitz Glider.

 

I ordered my glider from Harrison Truck Center in Iowa. Was able to spec out way more options and details than I could from Fitzgerald Trucks. Harrison is a full blown FL dealership and has direct spec'ing with FL production.