Winter Cover on Hood Grill Necessary?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by PE_T, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    Are these things really necessary? Big fleets don’t use them. Or, could it be that newer trucks already have it right behind the grill. I see my truck has some black screen behind the grill.
     
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  3. Socal Xpress

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    That's a bug a screen also helps slow small rocks from damaging the CAC condenser radiator
     
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  4. LoJackDatHo

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    Guys use them in the winter, especially on older trucks that didn’t run as hot as the new ones today do, to get the water temperature up so they have heat in the cab. Today’s new trucks run over 220 degrees normally so they are not needed to get water temp up for heat in the cab.
     
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  5. Socal Xpress

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    I have a 2010 D13. My water temps 172 to 211 when the fan kicks in. 220.....Not so much.
     
  6. 25(2)+2

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    Some fleets forbade those on their trucks, I was always careful not to use it too much, I've actually seen some damaged (shrunk out of shape) by getting too hot.

    Need a grill with snaps on Cascadia, that usually doesn't get done on collision damaged trucks very often.

    It's a factory order on new ones.
     
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  7. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    Not needed unless you live near Santa Claus, and you never work your truck hard.

    Also if your truck is always running at 220 F get it looked at, something is wrong to make it run that hot all the time.
     
  8. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    Maybe I am not understanding you correctly, but my 2014 Freightliner Cascadia (DD15) keeps my water temperature at 195-200. The fan will turn on automatically if it gets to about 225.
     
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  9. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    Fan should be on long before 225.
     
  10. gokiddogo

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    I run across Canada all winter and I don't need one. Takes a little longer to get the heat going at the start of the day but that won't kill you. Coolant stays 185-190 all the time. Oil 220. I idle it in the morning until it begins to register coolant and oil temp. Gauges start at 100.

    My huge grille allows for the fan to rarely come on in winter, only on a long mountain grade. It comes on at about 210 and cools to maybe 195? I turn it on if I am working it hard and it gets to 200 and is going to keep climbing anyway. Leave it on all the way to the top. All it takes is 1 overheat to do very costly damage to your engine.

    I should add. My old freightliner could of definitely used one. S60 pre egr. Coolant stayed about 160 at operation in winter. Slow down or park for any time you lose your heat. I still did just fine with that old indestructible truck.
     
  11. PE_T

    PE_T Road Train Member

    I think you are right. My guess is that the fan turns at about 212, now that I am looking at the gauge.
     
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