Wilson trucker 2000

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  1. MNTSIDE

    MNTSIDE Light Load Member

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    So here's my problem
    had an old trucker 2000 on the truck and had an SWR of 1.03 no problem, stripped one of the set screws out of the mast and screwed up the coil trying to replace the upper mast
    So bought a new trucker 2000 and cant get the SWRs below a 1.38, tried this with 2 new antennas.
    I'm thinking that Wilson has lowered there standards,and I'm fighting a fight that I'm not going to win.

    All measurements are being done with a AA35 zoom antenna analyzer
    Anyone else having these issues with the new Wilsons ??? Any ideas ????
     
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  3. jdchet

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    1.38 SWR is just fine. I bought a new Wilson 2000 last year and had many headaches trying to get the SWR down. Never had that problem with a 2000 I had 20 years ago! I just gave up and went with a 5 foot Firestick 2 and had better luck. I have since moved to a 5 foot Skipshooter and I am very pleased with it!

    JD
     
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  4. MNTSIDE

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    Yeah funny thing
    I hooked up the cheapy stock antenna that came with the truck ( 4 foot fiberglass) and had a 1.03 on 19, but the SWRs climbed very quickly either side of 19 ( very small band width )
    seriously thinking its time to go back to the fiberglass again, but my only problem is hight,i think I would destroy a fiberglass antenna
     
  5. Meteorgray

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    With an antenna analyzer, you're at the head of the class in regards to getting the antenna right.

    I would use the analyzer to achieve the best resonance, and ignore any SWR that is below 1.5:1. Although the lowest SWR usually indicates being in the ballpark in regards to resonance, it doesn't absolutely coincide, necessarily.

    I'd seek resonance first with the analyzer, and then check that the SWR is below 1.5:1, and then stop there. Would make me happy.
     
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  6. MNTSIDE

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    Glad you mentioned that, the resonance freq is way down at 26.319,what I was working on was the ohms and impedance
    which are (Z)=52.2..(R)=49.9)and the (X)=16.7
    The ohms look good but the X factor isn't looking so hot
     
  7. MNTSIDE

    MNTSIDE Light Load Member

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    All this on 27.115 freq with the SWRs around 1.38
     
  8. Meteorgray

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    I don't have an antenna analyzer, being satisfied with getting "close enough" with a simple SWR meter. But I've been told that this is the goal for those with analyzers:

    1. Get X=0 or as close as possible to 0 by adjusting antenna length etc. for resonance
    2. Get R close to 50 [ohms]
    3. Get SWR at 1.5 or below

    Maybe those skilled with use of the analyzer will chime in. All I know, or think I know, is that "resonance" is the gold standard to shoot for in regards to antennas.
     
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  9. Ridgeline

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    Just because an antenna (with or without a feedline) being resonant doesn’t mean it is one that preforms better than one that isn’t resonant
     
  10. Meteorgray

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    Now, that really is interesting Ridgeline. Then, what is the goal when tuning an antenna. If it's not resonance, what are we looking for?
     
  11. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Ok it isn’t as easy to explain, so let me muddle it up for you ...

    No seriously let’s start with my statement - Just because an antenna (with or without a feedline) being resonant doesn’t mean it is one that preforms better than one that isn’t resonant.

    So here are two parts to sort of explain it, first when the antenna is resonant, that means the voltage and current are in phase at the antenna's terminals. When this happens, the impedance is matched between the antenna and feed line at the antenna terminals but doesn’t mean that the radiating element is at its best efficiency to transfer power.

    Repeating and adding the second part is this ... many believe that the efficiency of the radiating element is at its best when it resonant which It is to a point, however resonance doesn’t measure the other parts of the antenna system, and many don’t understand that there is in all antenna systems a balance needs to be created for effective transmission. This at times includes the capacitance between the earth and antenna or vehicles.

    I have a k40 (old school) on my beater truck, it is a good antenna but it is a balanced system. It is resonant at 27.150, swr is just ignored. It performs very well, I get about 20 miles out of it and they can hear me a little past that with 20 watts. If I put more effort into the antenna, maybe go to a whip, I would do better. I also use it on 10m where I have talked to Europe with a little over 150 watts.

    so back to my statement, just because it is resonant doesn’t mean it works better than one that’s not resonant.
     
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