Why do so many Americans hate European trucks?

You want a big sleeper cab over ? Floor plan .

 

Her hooked up , ready to roll.

 

well to be fair enough , none of trucks in few recent photos are not everyday one,

Daf 95 use topsleeper cab, which are not in use since early 90s, AU KW use big sleeper not one you can see everyday , Scania longline is not truck you can see everyday, FL aragosy is one of a kind custom built truck, way too heavy for everyday work , may be used only to pull promotion trailers or similar

 

We've been here before, this very old type of EU sleeper cab is no longer allowed in Europe, Standard EU sleeper cabs are rather short because of the maximum length of the trailer and the combination. However there is no reason why these cabs can't be build longer as the Scania Longline shows. So for NA and AUS such type of cabs could be used.

This is a drawing of the present DAF XF SuperSpace cab:

 

Yes, it is very big, but over all shorter then a typical NA sleeper set up. With the NA set up, the sleeper is a kind of rucksack placed behind the actual cab. In the EU set up, the cab and sleeper are one space, so even a standard EU sleeper cab is much more roomy then you might think. The floor between the front seats is also living space (wide cab!), and there are storage lockers etc. over the front window. The height in the cab is more then 7 feet! The Scania Longline is/was a standard factory option, and it shows what you can get with a cabover.

The only thing you have to do is to switch off the "I want a hood" mindset, and just sit down and think it over.

 

Ok, I meant factory. I know Double Eagle has camper like sleepers. I just wanted to be honest, I've been dissing Euro trucks, but I was impressed with the sleeper on the Scania.

 

It's less "I want hood" and more "I want wheelbase for smooth ride"

The average aerodynamic OTR with large sleeper is 230" wheelbase. 100" cabover with setback axle was less than 150" wheelbase. Our cities are much newer than yours. Except for a few cities in the upper northeast, all large cities have been built since the advent of trains. The further west you go, the newer the cities, the wider the roads, etc. A cabover isn't necessary to get around. If all the same suspension components that are on a cabover are on the conventional, the conventional will ride smoother.

Sleepers here integral, except w9 aerocab and 386, 388 and 389, which are semi-integral. The traditional w9 is not integral at all.

 

A modern European truck has a very smooth ride, not in the least because of the suspension of the cab itself.

Seems there is difference in the definition of wheelbase between EU and US, otherwise I can't explain the figures. I looked at a DAF in the typical NA configuration, front axle + two rear axles. I found a wheelbase of appr. 5000 mm, or 200 inch. The wheelbase is measured between the front axle and a point in the middle between both rear axles.

How much suspension does a NA conventional cab have?

Look at that Scania cab + sleeper, it is one big box. With a NA truck you have the cab with a distinct shape and dimensions, and behind that a sleeper with a very different shape and dimensions.

 

I used to drive US trucks of different brands, and I can surelly say, thay average EU truck runs much smoother.

 

The problem of this conversation, that more a 90% of US truckes never drive european cabover. And they cant compare comfort, noise, fuel milage, maneurability.

The same about european drivers. Caesar, I'm sure u've never been at steering wheel of any US trucktor, with 57 ft tail. And u never used US trailer with EU trucktor and European TIR trailer with US trucktor.

Caesar, U cant imagine how to use slider axles ore slider fifth wheel, u do not know how to use CAT scale and how to pass DOT inspection.

Ex-USSR is the place where lenth limit allows to use US trucks and they are used for jobs they do better, especially on bad roads with limited axle load (6x4 and long wheel base lets use heavy trucktor on weak pavement). they are very simple, better for winter use (no tilt cab with hydrolic tilt).

European trucktor is better for urban use, narrow roads.

I use both trucks for international transportation, but unfortynatly old Series60 is Euro-2 engine and has no silent truck certificate and its use in some contries is limited.

Goverment pushes us to use DEF trucks.

ANd seems to me next trucktor will be of E5 ore E6 emission level/