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Old as late 80's to 1990.
Short and sweet to get things rolling. We are looking at buying an old truck to start with and since I’ll most likely be doing the wrench turning on it I’d like to find some info on engines. And we know all the cons with old trucks when it comes to trying to make money so no need to bring those up.
My main thought is are there any engines which should be avoided or ones I should look for. Ones which are ‘hard’ to work on, or tend to need more TLC than others. Or ones which run half of forever or which are easy to repair. Of course there’s the cost and availability of parts. Heard good things about the Cummings N14 and the Detroit 60 series.
Which old engines??
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Rich W, Jun 7, 2022.
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First off, define "old". There are technicians on here that have a very different point of view of old, from some of the mechanics, old school.
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I'll agree with @kranky1 for a 90's engine. All three were good. IMO, 60's are easiest to work on with reasonable parts prices. Best fuel economy here.
3406E 2nd easiest to work on. Parts are pretty expensive. The best powerhouse in a stock engine, and probably the best longevity.
N14 3rd. Hardest to work on and a bit tougher for those w/o experience. Parts prices are reasonable.snowman1980, mile marker 27, Rideandrepair and 2 others Thank this. -
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As for old tractors we have looked at them ranging from 82 to 99. It seems when you hit 2000 you have to add a computer to your shop tools and buy some kinda expensive software to put on it. While I like the fact that there are times when the computer can tell you exactly what the problem I don't like the fact computer issue tend to be hard to track down and often expensive to fix.
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The older you go the more odds and ends that will need replacement. You'll go to do a minor repair and find a handful of airlines and electrical that need replacement. Same thing with coolant, fuel, oil and powersteering lines.
Very few pre 2000 trucks are turn key ready to work hassle free without being one frayed or sun dried hose away from needing repair or getting sidelined. It's relatively easy to replace lines and electrical but it's a good deal of work and absolutely necessary for peace of mind.
If you get a proper specced truck for your application then any of the engines described above will serve you well but the plumbing and electrical will be your weak point.
Personally I'd look for a 3406b Cat but I'm partial to fewer electronics.jldilley, Rideandrepair, RubyEagle and 1 other person Thank this. -
I like the Series 60. Check out U tube for things to look for on a Detroit 60 by TAT Express. Also, check out Blue Ribbon Logistics video: Episode 81: Choosing The Right Truck for Your Operation
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not bad but seem to be very variable on how they run
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I can't begin to count the times I've fixed problems correctly on a truck only to find the correct repaired has caused other issues to show up.. So just be prepared.. to deal with what looks like a easy 100.00 fix may end up being a 600 or 1000.00 or more fix when it's all said and done
The element of suprise never fails to show up when taking on a old iron truckjldilley, Rideandrepair, Oxbow and 4 others Thank this.
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