Wheel seal leaking again in 50k?

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  1. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    thanks for the replies. Checked the spindle again today took emory cloth to it and put a new seal in last seal was a national tried an SKF this time it was all pete had and I was in a bit of a jam. I'm a little puzzled may need to sleeve it as wore out said the old seal was perfect aside from the dent I put in it pulling it. Honestly had I not have dented it and been able to clean it up probably could've stuck it back in the old box and returned it and they wouldn't have known.

    I cleaned the cap filled it up so we'll see how it goes I suppose the worst that happens is I put another seal in and a sleeve I'll be god ###### if I'm giving peterbilt $975 for a new spindle or a junk yard $675 for a used part that is an unknown. I need to run back to pete and grab the golden twinkie I left in the crapper when I got the price on a spindle.
     
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  3. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    If it's any consolation, I've never had any luck with national seals .Like really no luck, hate those things.
    I use skf/CR. Never a problem.
     
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  4. m16ty

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    I know a lot of people around here have been changing out the oil for 00 grease in trailer hubs that sit for long periods like storage trailers and container chassis. 00 grease is thicker than oil and is what they call semi-fluid. The theory is that it won't leak past the seals as easy.
     
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  5. WitchingHour

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    Are you using those one piece Stemco seals, by chance?
     
  6. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    a few things to pay attention too, look for a grove worn in the surface of the spindle where the seal rides, if one is present use a seal with a wear sleeve, also bearings as well as races. look for races that have spun if they have a few dings with a hammer and a punch will typically cure that problem. also bearings close inspection if in doubt replace them. now is the time to do it if you have it apart. my truck has over a million on it so i normally just throw bearings and races in automatically on any seal job. also proper bearing pre-load is critical.

    also apparently making sure you bend the lock tabs over isn't common sense. had new s-cams and bushings put in one of my tri axle trailers a few month's later i started loosing a bunch of wheel seals, found not one lock tab was locked and all my bearings were loose, one lock nut had backed itself completely off and was rolling around in the oil bath hub cap.
     
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  7. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    One piece SKF went in when I put it back together yesterday bearings looked pretty good so I cleaned them up and threw them back in. Hub looked alright and I took the emory cloth to the spindle to clean it up as best I could where the seal actually seats on the spindle. Overall I'm wondering if I just didn't get a bad seal from the box. Truck doesn't see many miles a year but I would think it sees enough miles every year to keep everything lubed regularly most it sits is maybe a week here or there.

    You have got to be kidding me that somebody who does a bearing isn't smart enough to bend the lock tab over on the washer??? Some peoples children I guess. At times I wonder what we pay for. I've got 1.5 million on mine I havn't had the pleasure of going through all the bearings yet but I'm sure I'm getting close for bearings on the other side of the steer and both drives. I've got brakes to get thrown on within a month or so before harvest so I'm hoping I can get everything taken care of before the busy season and then after harvest I believe I'll have to put a motor in the other tractor the blowby is getting a little ridiculous.just been one thing after another here lately.
     
  8. mhyn

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    on local trailer we installed 4 different wheel seals. All hubs had mobilith 007 inside and properly adjusted. National (standard version) started to leak at 110k miles. SKF PlusXL started to leak at 180k and it was leaking from sitting area. SKF Classic went 240k miles. National 38 series gold is not leaking yet. it has almost 320k miles now.
     
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  9. BoxCarKidd

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    I am not a big National fan but I do not have their tooling. Normally use Stemco Grit Guard with great success. Probably do not have the correct tools for some Mack drives. Have had some problems there.
    CR and SKF are the same company any more. Those metal drive in seals are very good if the surfaces are OK and I have some tools.
    If you have no tools get some push in seals.
     
  10. BoxCarKidd

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    A shop I worked at years ago did a bunch of seals on one before someone figured out the hub was cracked.
     
  11. haycarter

    haycarter Road Train Member

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    I realise that This is An OLD thread. But, have you checked to see if the Axle breather isn't blocked/clogged with crap..
     
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