What's the difference between winter and summer fuel?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by snowwy, Nov 1, 2022.

  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

    20,527
    13,262
    Jul 6, 2009
    0
    You guys probably have a better explanation.

    Is there still a #2 and # 1 blend?

    Bio or not.
     
    Suspect Zero Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

    7,350
    26,444
    Aug 18, 2007
    ~8600+' and loving it!
    0
    Yes, the refiners still blend fuel in the winter depending on it's destination market. I don't remember if that happens at the refinery or at the pipeline terminals.
     
    tscottme Thanks this.
  4. runningman0661

    runningman0661 Road Train Member

    5,133
    14,725
    Mar 5, 2009
    Clover, South Carolina
    0
    Winter blended fuel has more additives to help with no gelling in cold weather. It will definitely affect fuel economy. Usually during the winter months running winter blended fuel and running in denser cold air, I usually lose at least 1 to 1.5 mpg.
     
    tscottme and Dennixx Thank this.
  5. North Pole Nightmare

    North Pole Nightmare Heavy Load Member

    816
    1,594
    Dec 15, 2021
    0
    # 2 fuel will gel at 14 degrees.You will probably see winter blend decals on the fuel pumps in the Northern parts of the country.Canada and Alaska you will see #1 diesel,probably good to -40.

    #2 fuel will start to get cloudy below freezing temps and stop flowing at 14 degrees.
    #1 will flow to -40 degrees.
     
  6. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

    3,869
    19,554
    Sep 16, 2016
    0
    #1 also tends to desolve 1 micron filters. When i run number 1 in my 579 the filters start to break down after 5k miles or so at most.
     
  7. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    4,930
    12,288
    Feb 19, 2012
    CC, TX
    0
    I can't speak to the specifics on diesel, but I know that winter blend gasoline is allowed to have a higher Reid vapor pressure. They blend butane into it.
     
  8. upnorthwpg

    upnorthwpg Road Train Member

    1,717
    2,460
    Sep 23, 2011
    0
    If you run in canada, they switch all diesel to number 1. FYI.
     
    drh72 Thanks this.
  9. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

    7,350
    26,444
    Aug 18, 2007
    ~8600+' and loving it!
    0

    In both cases it boils down to the same thing, the average length of the carbon chains is shorter in the winter blends, reducing density and BTU/Gal as well as increasing volatility. It also lowers the pour point of the diesel.
     
    RockinChair Thanks this.
  10. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

    28,868
    154,540
    Jul 7, 2015
    Canuckistan
    0
    -43°C was the coldest I've seen and diesel wasn't even coudy.
     
  11. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    22,114
    113,323
    Dec 18, 2011
    Michigan
    0
    #1 diesel is the same as kerosene and jet fuel.

    #2 diesel is a thicker oil, it is pretty much the same as Home Heating Oil.

    They blend #1 and #2 for the winter.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.