Understood. I was just adding is that if the GVWR of the 1 ton truck is over 10,001 lbs, all of that is needed except the cdl. This is before the trailer is even brought into it.
What towing capacity is best for a hotshotting truck?
Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by ebucher96, Mar 12, 2010.
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a 3 car wedge is not cdl territory. a 3 car wedge hooked to a f350 is the biggest combination you can pull without a cdl. an f550, kodiak, etc is fine to drive emtpy but as soon as you hook a trailer to it it throws it over the gvw into cdl territory. the trick is its rated capacity, not actual weight. and you can apportion for whatever you want. I have a 7 car semi trailer and the guy im leased to doesn't have a cdl. he has a 3 car wedge and a f350 dually and his gvw is rated just under the 26,001 threshold. hes apportioned for 32,000 and can haul that legally.
btw the guy who said he's seen an 8 car hooked to a one ton is mistaken. it would never get going unless you rolled off a hill and then it wouldnt stop until it slammed into something. -
The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:
Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.
Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is transporting material that has been designated as hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and is required to be placarded under subpart F of 49 CFR Part 172 or is transporting any quantity of a material listed as a select agent or toxin in 42 CFR Part 73.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm
Penalties:
The Federal penalty to a driver who violates the CDL requirements is a civil penalty of up to $2,500 or, in aggravated cases, criminal penalties of up to $5,000 in fines and/or up to 90 days in prison. An employer is also subject to a penalty of up to $10,000, if he or she knowingly uses a driver to operate a CMV without a valid CDL.
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This truck will be mostly a personal type vehicle, going to work and back, etc. I do own a small trucking company and have a 2004 Peterbilt 379 with a 53 foot Great Dane Reefer. I am in the process of adding 2 more trucks/trailers that will also be like this. I then have a hot shot truck, a 2008 F550 that pulls a 40 foot flatbed trailer and works in the oilfield. This truck has been in the shop 90% of the time during the last 5 months.
So what I want is a truck that will be my personal type truck but be capable of backing up my other hot shot truck or just be available for other local type hot shotting jobs to add to what my company can provide locally. The oilfield hot shot truck has lost it's work to someone else while it's been in the shop and that is alot of money lost.
My problem is when I look at new one tons, most have a towing capacity of about 13k - 13.5k. My F550 is more around 16k so I'm just wondering what other hot shot trucks are towing on average and what would be the best truck for me to get. Are there any one tons with a better towing capacity or is 13K enough for most hot shotting? Or do I need to move up to something comparable to a F550 (cause I will never own another one!)? -
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Well I ended up with a 2010 Dodge 3500HD. It seems to be a nice truck and I think it will work for what I want it to do. Thanks for all the input!
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Just wanted to comment on the CDL per weight issue that was discussed earlier, it seems like there was some confusion. A few people seemed to be under the impression that you don't have to have a CDL if you're under 26k GVWR, which is true for private use, but not for hire.
Im not sure exactly how it works everywhere, but here in Colorado if you pass the 10,001 lb mark with a one ton pickup and trailer, and if it's for commercial use or for hire, you have to possess a class B. A company I worked for got in a bunch of crap with the DOT over a dually with a 16 ft car trailer all because the driver didn't have a CDL, so thats the way Colo does it anyway... -
If the trailer is rated above 10,000 lbs and the combination is still under 26,000 it is a cdl required vehicle.
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