What to do if you got double Brokered?

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by malhibros, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. malhibros

    malhibros Light Load Member

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    So we are in Nogales, AZ and we get a load from a CARRIER, who gets it from a shipper and passes it onto us. IS THIS NOT DOUBLE BROKERING? Also the company we got the load from did not have a broker authority! What do i do in this situation, the carrier is not answering the phone.
     
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  3. G3Truks

    G3Truks Light Load Member

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    Legally you can bill the original shipper. This is done all the time when this situation occurs and he shipper is legally bound to pay you. This will also alert the shipper that their freight is being double brokered.
     
  4. malhibros

    malhibros Light Load Member

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    okay, how do i bill the shipper? what do i tell them?
     
  5. G3Truks

    G3Truks Light Load Member

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    The address where you loaded should be on your BOL. I would start with a phone call and follow up with sending a bill. If you run under your own authority you can bill them any reasonable rate you want to at this point. If you are leased or a company driver the company has to bill them.

    Again I would start with a phone call. The shipper gave the load to someone and they will contact them immediately and demand that they pay the freight and end the problem. If the original broker chooses not to pay the shipper will fire them and you will be paid by the shipper.
     
  6. Flightline

    Flightline Road Train Member

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    Double brokering happens all the time and is perfectly legal. I think your just starting a fire getting in the middle and doubt you'll get any additional fee's considering you agreed to haul it for a set amount to the carrier you got it from.
    Many carriers pass their freight onto another carrier to get the load covered. Most shippers know this and could care less as long as the freight is getting moved on time.
     
  7. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    It's produce,exempt,they don't need broker authority.
     
  8. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    I'm not sure if that is considered brokered load. It could very well be a customer for that Carrier and they just need an extra truck. I guess the Carrier is hiring another truck maybe to cover something for him? maybe why he doesn't have broker authority. I don't know. Just make sure you get a BOL signed, that will hold up in court.
     
  9. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    blind loads move every day.
     
  10. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    Deliver the load as you agreed. Send in the signed BOL as directed by whomever you got the load from. Do not do anything special right now. Give the broker a chance to pay.I do hope you checked on the business rating of the broker, and it was OK.What happened is not really double brokering as you describe it, just someone with excess loads offering them to other carriers. Happens frequently in the produce business.I would not call it a " CODE RED" situation yet. Keep us advised of what happens.
     
  11. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    Well known carrier, no name carrier? If they're already not answering the phone, try calling from a number they don't know right after you try and see if they answer that. If they do it's probably a pretty good bet you won't get paid. Of course, everything may be above board.

    But, if you are not able to get in touch with them by mid morning tomorrow I would stop right then and call the shipper and find out what they know about this company. This may be the first load the carrier picked up for them. Could even be a scam between the shipper and the carrier to get freight moved free. Lots of crooks move produce when it's running good.
     
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