What is the rationale for the Bridge Laws?

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  1. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    I used to work for a trucking company that had a diagram showing two different trucks on bridges to show how tandem placement can affect the weight distribution on bridges. The diagram looked something like the drawing in the photograph below:

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    Now I totally understand why a short 80,000 pound tractor-trailer would strain a bridge more than a long 80,000 pound tractor-trailer like in the drawing in the photograph above. In other words, I understand why if there are two tractor-trailers of the same weight, the tractor-trailer with the shorter wheelbase will strain the bridge more than the tractor-trailer with the longer wheelbase.

    Here's the part that totally baffles me: Why do the bridge laws force drivers to keep a shorter wheelbase?

    Since the tractor-trailer with the longer wheelbase strains a bridge more than a tractor-trailer with a shorter wheelbase if the two tractor-trailers are of equal total weight, I would have expected the bridge laws to force truckers to slide the tandems to the rear. I would have expected the purpose of the bridge laws to prevent truckers from having too short a wheelbase. Instead, the bridge laws prevent truckers from having too long of a wheelbase.

    California has the strictest bridge law of all, requiring the distance from the kingpin to a point on the rear axle to be 40 feet OR LESS.

    Since a shorter wheelbase puts more of a strain on a bridge than a longer wheelbase for a given weight, why is the purpose of the bridge laws to prevent the wheelbase from being too long (instead of too short)?
     
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  3. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    They don’t force anyone to have a shorter distance between their drives and tandems. You are incorrect when you refer to KPRA regulations as bridge laws. KPRA is kingpin to rear axle. If you notice CA’s regulation has nothing to do with weight at all. You have to adhere to their regulation even when empty. So it’s not a bridge law as bridge laws deal with weight.
     
  4. drh72

    drh72 Light Load Member

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    Between the King Pin and Trailer Tandems are what is refered to as "Bridge" not an acutal bridge.
     
  5. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    Well, I suppose they don't DIRECTLY force anyone to have a shorter distance between their drives and their tandems. The bridge law force trucks to have a shorter distance between the kingpin and a point on the REAR AXLE ASSEMBLY. So, in practice, it does force people to have a shorter distance between their drives and their tandems.

    "We've got to slide the tandems forward. We're going to California."

    I've worked in the industry for over 8 years, starting in 2012. I've drove for three trucking companies. EVERYONE at every trucking company I ever worked for and everyone at the truck driving school I attended referred to the laws dictating the maximum distance between the kingpin and the rear axle assembly as bridge laws.
     
  6. FozzyNOK

    FozzyNOK Road Train Member

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    Truckers atlas has tons of bridge law information in the front of it
     
  7. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    That doesn’t make them correct. Bridge laws deal with weight. Period. I’ve been in the industry for almost 26 years and driven trucks with more than 5 axles when you have to measure your actual bridge and your inner bridge to determine the overall gross you’re allowed to go.
     
  8. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    The answer is that you can engineer the structure for whatever consistent rule is enforced, to engineer and build for EVERYTHING is too difficult or expensive
     
  9. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Here’s an example of the bridge formula at work. These two trucks that I drove couldn’t gross the same amount of weight, despite being very similar. If you can tell me which one could gross more weight and why then I’ll know you have a grasp on bridge laws and that you’re not confusing bridge laws with KPRA regulations.

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  10. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    No, you've got it backwards. If you want to be heavy, you need more distance, not less.

    KPRA is length only. Bridge law is weight in a given length.
     
  11. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    Do you mean that when people call the laws that dictate a maximum distance between the king pin and the rear axle assembly a bridge laws, the word "bridge" refers to a part of the tractor-trailer?
     
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