What does non excepted interstate permit mean

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  1. Xzay

    Xzay Light Load Member

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    Yea, I thought I did that already but I guess not its not good enough. He wants me to have them print out a whole new paper saying non excepted interstate permit on it.
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    If you ever got a ticket for not having a card the DOT cop that gave it to you did not know the rules or was asking for your card and you did not have your long form to show in place of card. In my opinion you should never drive a CMV and not have that long form with you in some way even if it is on a computer PDF file much like I did. People don't seem to understand that even the old forms used for years had the official certification right on the form itself. That card made it easier to carry and a lot of enforcement officers simply got used to being showed the cards. But there never was any requirement to carry a separate card codified in the rules at least since the new CDL law came into effect in the early 90s or the formation of the FMCSA and honestly I don't think there was one before even these dates. In fact I got inspected in Ohio back in the late 90s and the Officer asked for my CDL my log book and my medical long form if I had it.
     
  4. Dumdriver

    Dumdriver Road Train Member

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    This is like 2 threads in one (which is why it's confusing). The medical card is a seperate issue
     
  5. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    Unless I missed something you never got the true answer you were looking for as to the difference between self certifications. You already know the non-excepted interstate is the normal one but here's the breakdown.




    What are the self-certification categories?
    There are four categories:
    • Excepted Interstate (EI)
    • Excepted Intrastate (EA)
    • Non-excepted Interstate (NI)
    • Non-excepted Intrastate (NA)
    How do I determine which type of commercial motor vehicle (CMV) operation I should self-certify to?
    For the purpose of complying with the new requirements for medical certification, it is important to know how you are using your CMV. To help you decide, follow these steps:
    Do you, or will you, use your CDL to operate a CMV in interstate or intrastate commerce? Interstate commerce is when you drive a CMV:
    • From one State to another State or a foreign country;
    • Between two places within a State, but during part of the trip, the CMV crosses into another State or foreign country; or
    • Between two places within a State, but the cargo is part of a trip that began or will end in another State or foreign country.
    Intrastate commerce is when you drive a CMV within a State and you do not meet any of the descriptions above for interstate commerce. Note: If you operate in both intrastate and interstate commerce, you must choose interstate commerce.
    Once you have determined that you operate or will operate in interstate or intrastate commerce, you must determine whether you operate (or expect to operate) in a non-excepted or excepted status. This decision will tell you to which of the four types of commerce you must self-certify. You operate in excepted status when you drive a CMV only for the following excepted activities:
    • To transport school children and/or school staff between home and school;
    • As a federal, state or local government employee;
    • To transport human corpses or sick or injured persons;
    • Fire truck or rescue vehicle drivers during emergencies and other related activities;
    • Primarily in the transportation of propane winter heating fuel when responding to an emergency condition requiring immediate response such as damage to a propane gas system after a storm or flooding;
    • In response to a pipeline emergency condition requiring immediate response such as a pipeline leak or rupture;
    • In custom harvesting on a farm or to transport farm machinery and supplies used in the custom harvesting operation to and from a farm or to transport custom harvested crops to storage or market;
    • As a beekeeper in the seasonal transportation of bees;
    • Controlled and operated by a farmer, but is not a combination vehicle (power unit and towed unit), and is used to transport agricultural products, farm machinery or farm supplies (no placardable hazardous materials) to and from a farm and within 150 air-miles of the farm;
    • As a private motor carrier of passengers for non-business purposes; or
    • To transport migrant workers.
    If you answered yes to one or more of the above activities as the only operation in which you drive, you operate in an excepted status and do not need a Federal medical examiner's certificate.
    If you answered no to all of the above activities, you operate in non-excepted status and are required to provide a current medical examiner's certificate (49 CFR 391.45),commonly referred to as a medical certificate or DOT card to DMV or have a Virginia state approval letter. Most CDL holders who drive CMVs are non-excepted interstate commerce drivers.
    Note: If you operate in both an excepted status and non-excepted status, you must choose the non-excepted status to be qualified to operate in both types of commerce.
     
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