What do you send with a carrier packet?

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  1. Mattflat362

    Mattflat362 Road Train Member

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    Besides the usual MC cert, ins cert, W9, etc....does anyone have a nice form created to include with a carrier packet that the brokerage will have to sign.

    I would like something official that specifically says $400.00 TONU charge and $50.00 additional per hour after a 2 hour wait to load or unload.
     
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  3. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    Usually you'd put that on a rate con
     
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    @Ruthless Good to know. thx.

    what if they (broker) claim that detention is paid by customer, and therefore, may or may NOT be paid? Whats the recourse?
     
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    Depends where you are in the situation: personally I don't want a rate con that says rate of $xxxx with $xxx detention- I want it all in the rate so I don't have to listen to the "detention is paid when we get paid" song n dance.


    If you're talking before you go to load, make the decision if the rate pays enough to not get detention and still be worth it.
    If you're loaded and broker is telling you something like that, ill tell them add it to the rate n send me the rate con. N don't leave with the load or unload it if they start stalling.

    I want a new rate con, with the additional $$ on it as a all in rate, personally. Apparently a lot of guys don't, and then have problems.

    If a broker is trying to stall or give me excuses: I'm not trucking it I d g a f
     
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    Nobody is going to sign that I'm afraid. I certainly wouldn't. None of the big brokerages will. Anyone who signs that is instantly super scary to me because they might not be planning to pay for anything including the line haul.

    Accessorial charges are customer by customer. They get negotiated on every load. If you want those things you should be able to get them on the RC. If the broker won't put it on the RC that means his customer won't pay that. If they won't pay that it's decision time.

    This is one of those situations where the industry isn't fair. They get to ask you to sign all kinds of stuff because you're just some random smallish trucking company and they are a large business of some sort. Being able to get vendors to sign agreements like theirs is like 85% of why anyone deals with smaller operators at all. They can find someone to run the load who won't make them sign that so they won't sign it. They can find someone who WILL sign their carrier agreement to run the load so you have to sign it to get the load. It's about power and leverage not fairness.
     
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    What kind of equipment do you pull? I'm going to assume it's not Reefer/Van/ regular flatbed?
     
  8. Ruthless

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    Step.

    Idk that it has as much to do with the equipment I run as much as the level of service I provide, area I run and how many customers know it. I have people beating down my door to haul their product at good rates so I'm not in a position of weakness or need.

    I feel I'm fair, if the other party doesn't agree I don't haul their stuff. Not personal, just business.
     
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