What defines heavy haul?

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  1. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    Just curious. I know my milk loads are darn heavy sometimes and I know it's not quite heavy haul. We are on overweight permits. I don't see too many scales so I can't tell you my gross, the only time I have my gross is if I deliver to oatka. Yesterday my one of my loads was 70k for milk weight itself, not including weight of tractor and trailer. I would guess 110-115k gross. 48 ft tanker and peterbilt 386 18 speed.
     
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  3. Hoofbeats

    Hoofbeats Road Train Member

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    I would imagine 125,000+. I routinely did 115,000-120,000 in tankers and wouldn't consider it heavy haul.
     
  4. uncleal13

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    I would think any weight that is over and above what standard plates cover, and would require permits for.
    The standard U.S. truck is 80,000 lbs, so if you need permits above that, you are now heavy haul.
    Up here in Canada standard plates are about 86,900 lbs for tandem, about 102,300 lbs for tri-axle and 140,000 lbs for super B-trains. (yes each plate gets more expensive by the weight). Then you need permits to go higher, so I consider over 140,000 lbs heavy haul.
    So even though I pull 140,000 lbs, I don’t consider it heavy haul, as I can pretty much go anywhere I need to without special permits.
     
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  5. Cat sdp

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    Heavy haul is not just the weight it means oversized too.... you are just hauling heavy.

    There is a difference .
     
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  6. ad356

    ad356 Road Train Member

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    Oversized, now that has to be a challenge
     
  7. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I consider heavy haul anything over 80. Which means permit.
    129k seems to be max around these parts. Although i know there are configurations that could haul more so maybe that's changed.

    Flying J has a few single tankers that are practically covered in axles. Like in Michigan.

    I don't see how oversized would be considered heavy unless it was heavy.

    There's HH and there's OD.
     
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  8. special-k

    special-k Road Train Member

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    You should get get an accurate empty weight full of fuel. Write it down if you can't remember it. Iirc at certain times of the year milk can be heavier per litre due to the buttermilk content. Even if you dont have a choice its good to have an idea of your weight. Especially when you're on a permit already.
     
  9. Razorwyr

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    It can be.... depends on how big you are I guess. Anything under 12 wide isn't too big of a deal, you still fit most everywhere pretty easily. Its the superloads that really get to be a challenge I'm sure. I haven't ever ran what's considered a superload.
     
  10. Gearjammin' Penguin

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  11. Moose1958

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    I can't post the real definition in the open
     
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