wet kit questions

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  1. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    im looking to add a wet kit to my truck. what i would like to know is if the the wet kit can be setup to work for two various spisific applications

    one would be to be able to pull a side dump trailer, not really sure what specifications are needed for this, other than its a two line wet kit and guys recommenced a 50 gall hydro tank.

    what pto setups/options work well for side dumps?

    the other application would require a continuous flow at 25-28gpm with flows towards the upper end of that work best. 2 line wet kit. plenty of guys running 50 gallon hydro tanks on this application with no issues although many are running smaller capacity's with hydro coolers
     
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  3. popcorn169

    popcorn169 Road Train Member

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    I have never done a side dump but I used to do dump trailers and would pull a walking floor trailer on occasions. I just had to have a cap over one of the couplings when using the dump. Not a big deal just had to hook up the other line on walking floor. 50 gallon tank is sufficient to do what you want to. The place where you get it done will get the transmission model and get the right pto and set it up right.
     
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  4. popcorn169

    popcorn169 Road Train Member

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    I would get the aluminum side tank mount so that you can have room if you get in a tight spot.

    On another note looks like you are doing well with that truck. Do you miss other job or are you just doing your truck part time still?
     
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  5. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    been doing really well with the truck, been running it full time. dump season will start winding down soon, (had our first snow fall for the year today) kinda hoping to take the winter off will have to see how the end of the season pencils out to know if that will be possible. already looking twards next season.

    looking to be as versatile as possible. if its possible to do what i want with the wet kit it will give me the option of pulling side dump, pulling tank and pulling my belly.

    as far as the pto tank im thinking of having it sectioned into one of my fuel tanks, id like to leave my frame open to possibly add a pusher later on. and to mount a tank behind the sleeper not enough swing room unless i were to slide my 5th wheel back or remove my headache rack. and without being able to slide my 5th wheel forward would defeat trying to leave the frame open for a pusher

    all the side dump trailers i have looked at required 2 line wet kits. im really not very familiar with side dumps iv drove one once before for a day. but that's more than i had pulled belly dump before i bought my belly dump trailer....lol
     
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  6. craggy1982

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    ezrider if you live in colder weather. I think ive seen where you live in the Dakotas, you might want to consider maybe partitioning off your fuel tank to make an oil tank. the hot diesel in your tank will help keep your oil warm and will help in the winter time. I pulled end dumps and drove truck with the partitioned off fuel tank and others that were separate and the trucks with the separate tank in cold weather would operate slower. id imagine even with side dumps and in hydro it would move slower also. its just an idea and not necessary.
     
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  7. Ezrider_48501

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    yup live in nd i hadn't thought of the fuel helping keep some heat in the oil in the winter. iv pulled tank with a 50 gall oil tank mounted behind the sleeper and in the winter time cold hydo was defiantly a issue. normaly the first time you kicked in the pto for the day the pto would whine and pumps would run real slow till you got a little warmth in the fluid. normally in gauged the pto for a while with all the hydraulics in the neutral positions and just cycled the fluid for a while before engaging pumps.
     
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  8. popcorn169

    popcorn169 Road Train Member

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    That would be good to make part of the fuel tank your oil tank a lot of people are doing it I just forgot about that option.

    I would never thought about the fuel keeping the oil warm. Learn something every day. I guess that is what this site is about.
     
  9. Caterpillar Cowboy

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    If you're wanting to run a hydraulic driven blower for a sand trailer, you didn't specify what type of 'tank', but based on your location I went out on a limb and guessed. I thought about pulling my dump box off and maybe trying to run sand this winter, but when I talked to a guy I know who has 2 sand trailers around Casper, he was thinking the same thing about having a wet kit drive his blower, and he told me the setup would run around $20k a truck. If you find out more about this let me know but for sure about letting the pto run and warm up in the cold cold. That's what I do when I haul snow between storms and seems to work well. I'd also make #### sure and get a filter on that return line, preferably one that absorbs water and keep it replaced, or one with a water drain. I learned that lesson about 3 years ago! Hydraulic oil + Water + PTO Pump + 0 degrees equals tore up pump.
     
  10. Ezrider_48501

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    actually the tank i was talking about would be for a water vac trailer. instead of sand cans.

    i have done enough water i know what works well for a water setup, its the side dump stuff that i really know nothing about.

    the only side dump iv ever drove witch was only for one day had manual levers that controlled the raise and lower. iv seen some guys have a electric push button controls in the cab.

    now i know that the wet kits for side dumps are 2 lines 1 pressure one return. i assume the pressure has to be sent one way or the other to raise or lower the rams i dont know if this is accomplished by electric valves on the push button ones. this is also why i wonder if continues flow would be possible on a wet kit setup for side dump.

    for a water vac trailer you just engage the pto, the hydraulics flow out the pressure line threw a hydro motor that spins the pump and returned back to the tank. im assuming there is a little more to a side dump setup.
     
  11. overdalimit

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    Didn't read the entire post but there is a 'WETKIT' that'll allow you to operate at the two capacities that you mentioned...

    1. Low Pressure - for dump trailers
    2. High Pressure - for trailers that have hydraulic motors attached... (i.e) walking floor, product pump, etc.)... this is also know as a 3 line system because the fluid travels thru the pump.. to the hydraulic motor... back into the tank and out again... Also known a continuous systems...

    with someof the 3 line systems where you need constant fluid flow you'll need to install a hydraulic cooler... and this is normally ONLY required during hot summer months where the temperature of the fluid can get kind of high...

    check out this website... www.wetlinekits.com
     
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