The needle is bouncing up and down sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly. I was driving, and the needle hit the red shaded area (about 230 degrees), I got the “stop” engine light. It went away in 3 seconds once the needle was off the red shaded area. My fan/alternator belts are in place, and the coolant level is full. I am guessing maybe the water gauge is no longer working, or the water/coolant sensor isn’t working. Any thoughts?
I turned off my truck for a few minutes, and turned it on again. The needle was now closer to the 200 degree mark (normal for my truck), but the needle was still moving up and down.
Water Temp Gauge Needle Moving Up/Down?
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by PE_T, Feb 22, 2019.
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I took my truck to a FJ repair shop, but they were not able to help me. They only charged me $104. It was worth a try. I thought I had a coolant temperature sensor on my truck, but it turned out to be only a coolant level sensor for the reservoir.
I am now stuck and unsure on what to do. These are my options:
1) Attempt to drive (45 miles) to the dealer, and likely get multiple red “stop” engine lights. The mechanic does not think my truck is overheating, though.
2) Have my truck towed to the dealer.
3) Rent a car, drive to the dealer for some parts, and attempt to repair it myself or have FJ shop attempt to repair it again. -
I would imagine the fluid is not adequate in volume, or full enough inside the area the temperature sensor sits. Once the fluid level drops too much there is nothing on the sensor and your needle drops fast. When more fluid sloshes through it again boom back up it goes. At some point if you don't have enough cooling it's going to overheat and keep going until engine shutdown.
It is a small thought that if your cooling gets hot, take a look at your engine oil pressure and see if it has dropped say 10 PSI from normal and then check to see if the engine oil temperature has also started rising. If you are running a liquid transmisson cooler check that temperature as well. If all agree and getting warm then yes your coolant is no longer cooling.
There is a chance that the sensor inside the engine is bad feeding information to you that is not correct. It should be easy enough to replace the actual probe itself but you will have to dig down to get to it. Ive had probes go bad before when they corroded then fed bad temp information. That is usually confirmed on a dyno session designed to force the engine to overheat and quit. Ive ridden three of them via the passenger seat and believe me if it's going to burn it up it will do it then and there on those monsters.
All the mechanic saw was that needle flapping back and forth and shes pulling on that Dyno trying to make it stop. So that gave them something to consider and that was how we found the problem that time with the Probe or sensor going bad.
Another time we had persistant overheating and found that the radiator cap itself has gotten too weak and refuses to pass the pressure test applied to it. It's supposed to hold about 15 PSI when the test tool is applied to it. And if you cannot hold it you cannot cool it. A new cap fixed it.
Im sorry that I cannot offer do this or do that. It is a risk with today's modern computer engines, lose a pint and boom computer wants to shut down everything. It's silly. If it was me, I'll take it to the bigger shop with the understanding that if you duplicate the overheating on the way there then that's ok. A tow is not ok, but you need to find the problem and fix it.PE_T Thanks this. -
On the road with no tools water is a good temperature gauge. Stay away from the exhaust but pore some on top of the cylinder head. It boils at 212F. Stop if hot and go if not.
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Just shoot at the thermostat area on the head and or anywhere else on the head away from the exhaust.
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UPDATE:
The Freightliner dealer changed two (coolant) temperature sensors. I noticed one of them was the sensor on the coolant reservoir. The bill was $672. Both the sensors were about $50 in total.Last edited: Mar 2, 2019
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