Hey there!
Im looking for advise on hiring drivers for my trucks. I have been an O/O since the day I've started trucking about 4yrs ago. Never have been a company driver. I am currently leased to a company as a O/O for almost a year. Couldn't ask for a better company to be leased to. We are in the auto transport industry. I currently own 2 tractors and 2 trailers and would like to hire one driver for one of my 2 trucks to start. My question is what all do I have to do to do this legally and not ruin everything I've built up. I've read many post on here about giving a company driver a 1099 or W2. Still not too sure which way to go with that because it is so much of an argument on this forum. Currently I've just been running under my name. I just applied for a DBA because this will be the first year I actually make a profit ( last company I was leased to about killed me and took everything I had to stay afloat). I'm guessing giving my driver a W 2 is the right thing to do but seems a lot more complicated. Giving a 1099 would just involve paying my drive a fair percentage and with his deductions he probably wouldn't owe much if anything at tax time. I wouldn't mind paying workers comp or occupational health insurance. I've searched and searched and just seem to get more confused about the subject. Almost feel it may be better to sell my 2nd truck and just drive the one truck myself but on the flip side I hate driving and feel that if I can get the motion going I would be a good company owner/boss and I would like to create jobs for people. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!
Wanting to hire drivers. Need advise!
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 256 logistics, Jan 11, 2014.
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well if being complicated is the part your worried about
and your driving too
hire a payroll services company
they will take care of any amount of tax services you want them too
along with filing quarterlies for youEmulsified and ziggity Thank this. -
We use a payroll service called TLC, they only deal with trucking companies, they will take care of everything including your taxs, compliance and WC. The great thing about them is you can set your self up as an employee also. For us what we saved in WC more than covered the fee they charge for taking care of everything.
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I can't not stress this enough - get a lawyer, get things written down of what you expect out of a driver and have the lawyer write you up a contract. Then start looking for drivers.
Another bit of advice, always expect you will never find someone who will drive or take care of that truck as you will, so be prepared for some BS. It takes a long time to find the right person to put in the driver's seat. -
When you give a 1099 to anybody is like that person is an Independent Contractor to you or like many calls "self employed" person. You can't deduct ANYTHING from that pay, no withhold. That person is responsible for His/Her tax, and for insurance; and that person MUST have work compensation. Well, that would push a lot of drivers away; I wouldn't sign in with anybody on 1099. - Now W2 is another pain in the but, a lot of legal work to do, that if you don't do it right you might end up in a big trouble and losing a lot of money. A lot of O/O I know they use legalzoom.com, check them out, they can do EVERYTHING for you.
http://www.legalzoom.com/?cm_mmc=Go...0000066660b3&gclid=CJCl4tX59rsCFYNxOgodmlUAaw -
The problem too many people miss is the problems when you don't have a good contract which is tailored for your business needs - and to have someone who just throw one together is more of a mess than anything else.
As for employee vs. contractor, I had employees twice in my business career, once under a limited partnership and once as a sole proprietor - they are not an issue with setting it up but you have to make sure that you file your quarterly taxes on time and not mess with it. With an employee, you are responsible for more than if they were a contractor and truthfully, if you love to micromanage your drivers, then that's the way to go because they are now just steering wheel holders. If you want someone to think for themselves, contract them as 1099 and let them loose. -
Actually for accounting service here it is the link: (legalZoom is more to help to set up your business)
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Thank you for all the replies. The first driver I am considering is a long time friend of mine. I guess what I was trying to ask is... Since I am a O/O and get a 1099 from whom I am leased can I give the driver a 1099? What should I be giving myself? My driver said he doesn't care what he gets but is afraid of oweing too much, but I think with all his deductions he would be fine. I own the trucks, pay for fuel, repairs, tolls etc. the only thing I do not pay for the driver is meals, or anything that is not nessasary to do the job. I pay the company I'm leased to 15% of gross to book my cars. All my driver has to do is drive the truck, put fuel in the truck, load/unload cars, and simple repairs to the truck/trailer (repairing lights and so on). I don't force him to go anywhere he doesn't want (IE he hates Alabama so I don't send him to Alabama). Can take time off whenever he wants (I figure it's just money he's losing I'll jump in the truck and keep it moving).
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My Friend as a former business owner who used Independent Contractors Properly, this scenario is not that the IRS will recognize as a IC position, I understand how you want to save time and money but him driving your truck he is your employee, If it was his truck his fuel his maintenance his everything and he worked through your company to haul cars then he would be a IC but you don't want the IRS seizing your ASSets for the fines till you can pay the huge fines by trying to get around paying the fees taxes WC Etc. It just isn't worth it. Just my 2 cents worth, by the way my former business was not in Trucking. But my IC's were just that they worked when they wanted to they ran the way they wanted to and I paid them on a contract that we both had a copy of. Good luck.
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