w900's or comparible trucks

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  1. OSkimbo

    OSkimbo Bobtail Member

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    Hello,


    I am looking to buy a new to me semi to haul feed. All my runs will be 80k #'s with a 13'6" tall, 53' long, walking floor, box trailer. Mainly through Arkansas and the surrounding states. With the majority of my runs staying around 500 miles and ending down dirt roads/pastures. Originally I was wanting a Kenworth T2000 with an ISX and Volvos with the lower table bunk for my boys but the price or milage is to high. I am currently lookin at W900's with 13speeds. I am wondering about the best bang for my buck combination truck and motor, for my hauls. Also I will have the occasional flat bed oil field hot shot runs.


    For example the pros and cons between a Cummins N14 and Cat 3406e? Both with 3.70 gears.


    Also what is the best years, in your opinion, for these? IE: tunable horsepower, longevity, type of freon(R130A vs. R12), expected milage, type of cabin, etc...


    The N14 is a 96' model with 500k and the Cat is a 95' with 450k.


    Finally in your opinion what are some other truck combinations I should consider for my application?

    Currently I drive an 01' Columbia day cab with no fairing. I consistently get 5.7-6.3 mpg. I have never gotton less than 5.3 and have managed 8mpg in that brick. lol (edit: Has ISX)


    Thank you for your time,
     
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  3. Peterbilt_Trucker

    Peterbilt_Trucker Bobtail Member

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    Caterpillar is a better motor IN MY OPINION, I drove a 2000 Peterbilt 379EXHD to 1.2 Million miles and it was a 460 N14 Cummins and a 10 speed. But a Caterpillar will out pull the Cummins every time in my opinion.

    I drove a 2007 Kenworth W900L midroof, sleeper extenders (72" stand up) with a Twin turbo C15 Cat turning 600HP and had 1850 Torque with an 18 speed. Running mainly Interstate 64 and Interstate 71 threw Indiana and Ohio and I averaged 6.4MPG
     
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  4. OSkimbo

    OSkimbo Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for your reply. That turned up c15 sounds like a beast!
     
  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Motors are always a personal preference, mine would be CAT. In your shoes I would look for a 2000-2002 W900 with a C15 serial prefix "6NZ". Thirteen speed with 3:70's is a good setup it's what I have and I like it, 3:55's would give a little better top end, but 72mph at 1600rpms is where I'm at and not bad at all I don't think. I never downsplit much and always have plenty of power on tap. I would not go any higher than 3:55's. Just make sure any prospective truck with 3:70's has 11R22.5/lopro 24.5 or 11R24.5 rubber - you would not want lo-pro 22.5's with those rears - and you should be fine.
     
  6. Peterbilt_Trucker

    Peterbilt_Trucker Bobtail Member

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    Awesome, I used to chase another driver up the hills on Interstate 71. He had a 505 Detroit in a midroof shaker and I used to just torture him pull up along side him , wave and fall back in behind him. I actually grabbed a gear at the bottom of Suicide hill one time
     
  7. -insert name-

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    I have a C15, they are beastly. Going up a hill with 73,000 and only drop one gear out of 13. Very good engines, had a 2007 9400i Navistar with a Cummins ISX... after 500,000 miles it wouldn't pull, spent a total of 6 months and 34,098 dollars in the shop. Everyweek having something adjusted or replaced.
     
  8. lonelyswmtrucker

    lonelyswmtrucker Medium Load Member

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    if u don't mind spending money; go with a CAT; i've owned 5 of them; 1 - 3406B, 2 - 3406E's, 1 - C16 & 1 - C15; the B model was the BEST. i traded them & bought trucks with CUMMINS & DETROIT engines & have nothing but good luck out of them. Detroit is the easiest to maintain & troubleshoot along side a cummins being next. when i had my CAT's they did good but when they broke down, they BROKE DOWN & cost out the wahzoo to get going whereas my detroit's & cummins' good engines, just as long lasting as a cat. just my experience with what i've owned
     
  9. OSkimbo

    OSkimbo Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for the reply! Why would you consider 2000-2002 and a 6nz serial number to be better?
     
  10. OSkimbo

    OSkimbo Bobtail Member

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    I had nothing but good luck with the two isx's I drove. Until an imperfection in the casting caused a leak on a cooling chanel. Found out that you can't weld a isx block but you can any of the older blocks ddue to metal composition. Fixed it the best I could. It went from leaking about a gallon every 8 hours to about quarter gallon every 20 or so.
     
  11. OSkimbo

    OSkimbo Bobtail Member

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    I drove a water truck for a summer with a Detroit and loved it! It fit my driveing style to a t. Now that Im looking at such an investment the shear amount of parts in a Detroit worries me. The initial cost and parts for a Cat is a concern to. To me that left Cummins. But pulling the trigger on such a large investment is making me presue all options.

    Of course fuel milage is a concern but to me reliability is bigger and resale ability is comeing into play. You know I'm sure I'm like just about any other driver out there. Concerned about the overhead, buying American, and most of all getting home.
     
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