Just say for example, there's a truck driver getting an 80k salary w2 and another getting 80k on 1099.
Which loses more money to uncle sam?
Seen conflicting info about this and maybe varies case to case? I see you can have all sorts of write offs for 1099 so that means possibly you pay less in taxes with all the write offs?
But also I see on 1099 you are responsible for 15.3% self employment tax, in addition to federal and state. Whereas on a W2 you only pay half of 15.3%.
I understand you have to set money aside and pay taxes quarterly for 1099. Which totally sucks having a savings account for 13k or 19k in it just to dish it out for taxes, but if it would actually save money compared to a w2 I wouldnt mind as much.
I don't care about health benefits, workers injury comp, etc. benefits of being a w2 and that's not relevant here. All i'm wondering is which loses more on taxes.
W2 Vs 1099- 80k salary- Which takes home more?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Outis, Nov 8, 2023.
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What write off are u doin for 1099 if you don't own the truck?
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That question cannot be answered the way you want it to be. There are too many variables involved like what your deductions are and how you use them etc etc but if you look at the IRS tax brackets and then add your SE tax you'll quickly see 1099 pays more taxes in the end.
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The "1099" option will be FAR MORE HASSLE & AGGRAVATION than it's really worth.
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1099 pay is essentially inflated by 25-30% because it ignores ALL TAX PAYMENTS. The interesting comparison is not $80K W2 vs $80k 1099 but $80k W2 vs $104k 1099 AND THEN PAY ALL THE TAXES YOU OWE as a 1099. MANY MANY of these comparisons stop the comparison at PAYDAY and many, many 1099 success stories last until next April 15's tax day and then disappear once they see how many thousands they owe to the IRS/State tax authorities.
In my experience I paid around 15-20% of my W2 income in taxes over the years. For exactly the same gross pay/revenue you at least pay more in taxes just because you are paying employer/employee sides of the Social Security, sometimes called Self-Employed Tax.
Also, to ignore the financial effect of having the employer pay some of your health insurance costs versus having zero health insurance or paying 100% of the full costs on your own insurance/medical costs dwarfs the difference between W2/1099. If 1099 isn't paying AT least 30% more than W2 it should be seen as a financial downgrade. Ask accountants. Many 1099 truck drivers answers don't disclose their creative and individual "interpretations" of the tax code, which will eventually come back and bit them in the backside. As someone that experienced this before trucking, my $300 mistake in taxes eventually cost me $3,000 once the taxes and penalties were collected by the IRS, not to mention the stress of having the IRS on my back for several years.
Lastly, 1099 requires you to not just drive the truck and keep customers as happy as possible, but you also must be a part-time bookkeeper/amateur accountant. That takes time and is a level of responsibility ON TOP of working 70 hours per week as a driver. 1099 better pay substantially more to even be close to worth the extra effort. 1099 is generally better for the employer while W2 is generally better for the worker.mathematrucker, gentleroger, mitmaks and 5 others Thank this. -
Well, given your first 2 sentences, I'd say ask yourself this, "when you break down on the side of the road and you need a tow, who makes more now?"
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1099 - pay ALL taxes for for fed and state and you have NO health insurance ( unless you pay for it , like blue cross and / or aflac , HSA , etc ) those you MAY be able to deduct, but you have to be the book- keeper and keep all deposits recipts and pay outs ( bill payments to Any medical program).
You'll get more till 4-15 , then the tax man will demand there cut.
W-2 you pay half the tax and you get a refund if you can itemize ( med , hsa, etc) .
W-2 beats 1099 hands down.
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