Using Blue Air Lines For Red. Legal?

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  1. JWinNC

    JWinNC Light Load Member

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    Anyone know if it is legal to use the blue air line in place of the red one? Of course it would have the red glad hand on it.

    Fleet Pride only sells air lines in pairs as well as a few other supply stores we can use nearby. Because of a lot of the blindside backing at docks on hills we have to do around here, one of us will bust another red air line every month or so.

    So, we buy pairs of air lines and end up with a bunch of new blue ones sitting in the maintenance shop since we don't have to replace those as often. Maintenance orders all of our oil/parts for us here. I need to know if it is legal to use the new blue air lines with a red glad hand to save on our budget from buying pairs/sets every month.

    Any insight from you guys out there would be much appreciated. Thanks.

    JB
     
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  3. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    It's absolutely legal to do so. DOT doesn't care about the color only that the lines aren't chafed, rubbing, leaking, or about to break. He'll mine are both black rubber and I've never had a problem. The only concern I'd have is if the drivers are smart enough to look at the hand and not the line to kno which is which.
     
  4. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I drove a Volvo and both air lines were green but had a blue and a red glad hand. The green lines were not the coiled type; they were straight like a garden hose. I didn't ask the shop guys, since the glad hands were color coded. Evidently, nothing illegal about it.
     
  5. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    What would a color blind driver be seeing? Drivers need to be aware that the inside line goes to the inside and the outside to the outside!
     
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  6. CondoCruiser

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    I don't understand how you are repeatedly busting lines. Even an extreme jack you should have sufficient line length. There are several setups form a coiled line to a flexible tree holding up your straight lines to springs supporting your lines.
    Perhaps you need to go to a flatbed setup and extend the connections to the frame or move the existing fixed connections more towards center. There is a permanent solution to where you don't have to keep buying lines. Maybe even spread the glad hand a little to where it still maintains pressure but the glad hand pops off? Anything but break the line. My new Pete come with the lines laying on the catwalk. I had to make modifications to make them legal.

    Brake hoses are covered under 393.45 which besides a few other things only says they must meet the criteria of FMVSS 106 (49 CFR 571.106) which is 34 pages of everything you can possibly think of related to a brake hose. No where in either regulation is color mentioned.

    Only in the drivers manual is color mentioned.


    One reason color isn't a big deal is if you accidentally crossed the lines you are not going anywhere. So go ahead and use the blue lines up for now but I would look for a more permanent solution.
     
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  7. JWinNC

    JWinNC Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the responses. Two of the trucks are used constantly for switching trailers between manufacturing and the DC (warehouse) while the other two go down the road to make pickups and return at the end of the day. The two that need lines replaced every 6 weeks or so are the ones that are doing all the drop and hooks between buildings (30 full ones come over and 30 empties go back daily on average).

    It is difficult to explain without a few pics, but when the empties go back it's a blindside situation backing up an incline where the trailer dips almost onto the frame of the truck and we "jack" them pretty good due to space, getting stuck in a dip, etc. which stretches air lines and wears them out quickly from all the abuse. We are talking about 2 standard daycabs here.

    The incline and dip are so bad in places that we have designated docks OTR trucks can only use. If an OTR truck backs into one of the steeper docks that we use, he/she is losing their catwalk when the trailer lays on it. I have a very thick, large chain that stays in my floorboard as well to pull OTR trucks out that get stuck in the dip. Engineers didn't think it through very well when they designed this place 25 years ago.

    Thanks again.

    JB
     
  8. Ebola Guy

    Ebola Guy Heavy Load Member

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    Have you thought about switching to black rubber lines? IMO they are more durable and tolerant than the cheap plastic coils.
     
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  9. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    air lines break. more so in the winter then summer.

    some trailers i've pulled had swiveling glad hands. but those are expensive.

    i pack a bag of crushers and inserts. when the line breaks. i take apart. new crusher and insert. slap back together. good as new. $2 in parts.
    equip the trucks with parts and make em have wrenches and a razorblade knife. fix on the spot. no waiting for a new hose. which is more expensive.

    one local company i worked for. had kits in all their trucks. could fix ANY type of air leak or break. and they had tool kits that they sold to the drivers.
     
  10. EZX1100

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    the only time my air lines ever broke is when some numbskull at a shipper decided he was going to disconnect my lines

    in other words, its not the lines but the person disconnecting them that is breaking them

    get the extenders, its easier to remove the lines without putting unnecessary pressure directly on the lines
     
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