USA drivers that drive in Canada

Minimum off-duty hours: 10 hours each day. 8 must be consecutive; remaining 2 hours in segments of at least 30 minutes

Maximum on-duty hours in each (24 hr) day: 14 HOURS

Elapsed time limits after coming on duty: No driving after the 16th hour

Maximum driving time after coming on duty: 13 hours

Deferral of off-duty time after coming on duty: Deferral of 2 hours off-duty to next day only-must still take 8 hours consecutive; hours deferred must be added to next core rest period

Maximum on-duty time in a cycle: 70 hours in 7 days; or 120 hours in 14 days

Cycle switching: Switching permitted after reset

Minimum restart/reset 36 consecutive hours for cycle 1, & 72 consecutive hours for cycle 2

Sleeper berth: Splitting off-duty- single drivers: 2 periods of at least 2 hours each that total 10 hours or more

Sleeper berth: Splitting off-duty team drivers: 2 periods of at least 4 hours each that total 8 hours or more

Mandatory off-duty time to limit consecutive workdays: At least 24 hours in preceding 14 days

 

I can actually post documents now so it should work, here goes.

 

Unfortunately Dan, Canada only recognizes their rules and USA only recognizes our rules. You can switch back in forth. Like if a USA driver is in Canada they can go under the Candian regulations on the 13 etc, but he better take a full 10 hour break before he comes to USA side!

Now the trick is: Canada says you must take a 36 hour break to reset. Therefore the 34 does not full fill the 36 hr break Canada requires. When you do a 34 hr they will do the recap for the last 7 days and if you are over 70 hours/7 DAYS! (It will be fine doing 70 hours/8 days, since we are stricter) they will shut you down for 36 or until you gain hours under the gaining hours theory.

Also if you don't have a 24 hour period within the 14 previous days, they will shut you down for 24 hours, starting right now! They won't fine you, but they will make you in compliance with the MTO regulations.

IF a USA driver stays under the USA regulations, they only need to worry about
1) Writting the beggining and ending odometer readings on their logs ON EVERY LOG SHEET! Starting now until you decide to never go to Canada again
2) You need to keep track of Beginning and Ending odometer reading "if" you use your truck for personal use while in "CANADA ONLY"
3) Make sure you take 36 hour breaks or you are in compliance with the 70 hour 8 day recap. If you do a 34 that DOES NOT COUNT IN CANADA! IT MUST BE 36 TO RESET THEIR CYCLE 1.
4) Make sure you state on your log sheet you are using cycle 1.(we had this pre-printed on ours)
5) Make sure you have a 24 hour period off duty (sleeper & off duty combination is fine) off within the previous 14 days.

Chime in if you feel I forgot anything. I will post something else tomorrow that breaks down what I said; but a little more details.

With the old rules in Canada you was always in compliance with Canada becasue the USA was stricter than Canada, now Canada is still not so strict in some area's but stricter in the one's mentioned above.
I posted a link regarding the Canadian regulations.
Let me know if you still don't believe me and I will get you proof, but it might be tomorrow since that is at work, sorry. The word I posted is showing the USA versus Canada, they did this so you could see where you needed to comply and where you didn't need to comply.

Have a great night! I am just the messenger; DON'T SHOOT ME!

 

USA drivers can run under Canada regulations while in Canada! Canadians can run under the USA regulations, but you must be in compliance with each others regulations while entering the Country or leaving the county.

I just had a driver tell me they shut him down because he was not in compliance to drive into the country.

I currently manage a company that is based in Canada and we allow the Canadians to switch back and forth. But they have to go with the stricter of the rules to stay in compliance.

I went to a seminar which included one of the big guys from MTO (that is their DOT's name) and they specifacly stated what I stated to everyone. IF a USA driver is not in compliance with the Canadians regulations they will not be allowed into the country and will be shut down and fined. I will try and find something more clearer. I have something but it was a book given to me in the seminar by MTO?

But again you can switch back and forth "if" your company allows you. We are a big company and it is just best to stay under USA regs as to having the driver go back and forth and get confused and cost fines. But some company's might let you switch back and forth. But if you go to Canada you do need a 36 and you do need the 24 hour period off duty as explained. Our Canada company switches back and forth because they spend allot of time in both the USA and Country. The auditors have to know USA regs & Canadian "THAT IS CRAZY STUFF THERE".

Again I am not trying to argue with ya, but I want driver's to understand the facts on it, so I will try and find something you can see. If I find it I will post!

 

Ok duh I did have this document at home: Now I want to say I partically do not even CARE FOR JJ KELLER anymore, I USED TO! But this is from their website, it is really hard to find the information on Canada on the net for some reason, maybe I am typing in the wrong search information?
Anyhow what they have stated in this letter is TRUE! I know this to be true because of the Seminar I went to and I specifaclly ask the MTO guy what would a USA driver need to do to stay in compliance with both and this letter will provide that answer.
If you still doubt me, please let me know and I will somehow make you believe me Have a great night