US XPRESS Lease-Purchase Program Not Worth the Effort Chattanooga Tennessee

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  1. thebeeladyintn

    thebeeladyintn Bobtail Member

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    I am using my wife's username in reporting my experience with US Xpress:

    I signed a Lease-Purchase agreement with US Xpress at the end of April of 2013. I am a driver who has had 13 years of driving experience both as a company driver and an Owner Operator. I have a squeaky clean driving record, CSA Scorecard and DAC report. I drive the speed limit, perform pre and post inspections on EVERY load. And I am a driver that knows that hard work and putting in the time will make you money. I also know that sure that $135,000.00 gross looks good on paper, but the truth is, once you deduct the $80,000.00 fuel bill and all your other fixed and adjustable expenses, in the end you get lucky if your taxable income is 35 to 40K. I know that making it in this business takes a lot out of you and your family since I have been out for months at a time. I am lucky to have a more that capable wife who takes care of the home, finances and my son. I am also lucky that they are very understanding of this and they keep those stresses off my back since driving is stressful enough.

    When I signed on with US Xpress, they did not have a truck for 3 other guys and me at the Tunnel Hill, GA shop so we were given a rented van and told to drive to the Shippensburg, PA shop to pick up our trucks. You are not given a choice of what truck you want, you are simply given a truck and forced to accept that truck no matter what condition that truck may be in. At the Shippensburg shop I was told by the mechanics there that the trucks had been checked over, detailed and were ready to go. Being the former mechanic and skeptical person that I am, I decided to give “my” truck a complete and thorough check out. After starting it up and running it for 45 min. in place I discovered 5 oil leaks. When I pointed this out to the mechanic, he told me that the pool of oil under my truck was from a previous truck. Well it turned out that it was from my truck because I could see the leaks, plain as day. So my employment started out with my truck being taken to a Freightliner Dealer for repairs. I did not get my first dispatch from them until May 7[SUP]th[/SUP]. I didn’t get out of the debit column, meaning expenses were more than mileage and fuel per diem pay until May 24[SUP]th[/SUP]. The first month that I worked there I spent 18 days in break-down for miscellaneous reasons; i.e. oil leaks, air leaks, COMSAT that worked ½ of the time. My favorite little COMSAT problem that I experienced was its habit of erasing all of my logs at midnight daily.

    I had a beef with my first fleet manager that I was assigned to. I like to call him affectionately “the I don’t know guy” Being a new driver, of course, you have many questions and the only answer that I ever got from him was “I don’t know”; not my desired answer of “I don’t know, but I will find out and get back to you”. His lack of training and knowledge put me into some predicaments that I would have rather avoided. However once I got rid of Rob Hill my second fleet manager was fabulous. I also had a beef with the weekend crew whose habit of calling you while you are logged into sleeper berth time and for taking the good paying loads off of you for nonsense reasons. When I discussed this problem with my second fleet manager, he acknowledged that yes indeed that they did do that and that it annoyed him as well.

    I don’t mind taking heavy loads as long as it is balanced with light loads. I am not one of those drivers that will out right refuse a heavy load. However, that seemed to be the only loads that the planners would give me. One load was so heavy that I had to take from Maryland to Texas; I could not put more than $100.00 of fuel in my tank at a time or else I would have been over the maximum allowable weight for my truck per DOT regulations. This cycle of continuous heavy loads went on throughout the month of June. So slowly, but surely my debit column was chipping away at my credit column.

    I also would like to point out that the trailers at US Xpress are less than desirable and in my humble opinion skirting very closely to sub-standard. A lot of the problems that I experienced could have been prevented if drivers performed post trip inspections properly and reported that trailers had lights that were not working and other easily corrected defects. It got to the point where I would carry replacement bulbs, wiring harnesses and other trailer repair items so that I could quickly fix these items and get rolling. The other defects that had to be repaired at a shop caused me a lot of down time. I simply am not willing to risk my clean record for sub-standard equipment and a company culture of “pass the buck” to the next driver that is dispatched to that trailer. Also you can always tell how good of a reputation that a company has based upon their equipment by how many DOT inspections that you are stopped for or waived on through. I was always stopped for DOT inspections while driving for US Xpress.

    Finally after being out for a full 2 months, except for the 34 hour reset that I used to get home and get the rest of my working equipment, I went home. And frankly, I took a week off. I deserved it, my family missed me and I had out of town guests coming that I had not seen in 5 years. After that, it went steadily downhill. During the month of July I made $9060.00 in mileage and fuel per diem pay and had $12, 059.00 in truck expenses. Now keep in mind that I also have a mortgage and home expenses like phone and electric bills, and food and gasoline expenses for my wife and son. My son started school without the proper school supplies that he needed. Additionally my wife had to apply for SNAP benefits to put food on the table. My wife called Josh Sunheim and had a nice little chat with him, questioning the cycle of heavy loads and lack of direct deposits into our bank account. Even after my wife pointed out to him that we were experienced at “playing the game” he still talked to her like she was a greenhorn and had no idea what the trucking business was all about, which is so far from the truth. However he assured her that he would personally keep an eye on my miles.

    After that disastrous month of July, my “boss” said “Honey, you have got to walk away from this contract and find another lease-purchase agreement with a better company”. I had talked to another driver who was also experiencing that same type of deal and I asked him why he stayed. He told me that his wife had a good job and he had already made a considerable investment in the truck. Thankfully I was not in that boat. My wife put my resume back out on the web and found me an outstanding company who appreciates conscientious drivers and treats them like what they are; their most valuable asset. I am happy to say that yes I am still behind on some bills but my house isn’t in foreclosure, my wife, son and I can eat without assistance from the government and my kid has all the supplies that he needs to do his job of getting a proper education.

    In conclusion, if you don’t mind driving sub-standard equipment, working with poorly trained fleet managers and annoying weekend crews, having your debit columns bigger than your credit column and being disrespected, in spite of having played the game for many years with an outstanding career record; go ahead and sign a lease with US Xpress. I promise you won’t be disappointed.
     
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  3. Florida Playboy

    Florida Playboy Road Train Member

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    13 years experience not just as a company driver but O/O and you signed a flease with a bottom feeder?:tard::smt017
     
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  4. Cman301

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    I am sorry 13 yrs experience. as a driver, & 0 0, and you are going to lease purchase , & lease purchase from us express ? you made a bad bad move !
     
  5. bigblue19

    bigblue19 Road Train Member

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    My views on USX are well known but when i worked there you could make some serious coin as a IC, especially if a team. The rent a truck drivers are just treated like a company solo.

    Always sign on your own truck, never lease a company truck. Credit not good? Then work on getting your score up and save your money for a truck you want. Not one a company tells you to pay for.
     
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  6. pattyj

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    Doubt you'll get any favorable reviews poster.Leasing and not being successful at it seems to be a growing epidemic in trucking.So you have 13 yrs exp and some of that as an O/O,so why did you sign an agreement without looking at the trk first?Is this how these companies are,you sign some agreement,contract or what have you and you don't have a clue what trk you're getting?Do drivers even ask questions?If I was thinking about l/p or even leasing(company driver) I would have looked over the trk first then take it for a drive.When you buy a used car I would like to think you don't make the same stupid mistake and buy it because the salesman says its a great running car.Keep on mind you lease a trk,you are responsible for fuel and upkeep.I have never leased ive always been a company driver and I do know that you can't pick your own trk and most companies casterate the trk so its the same speed as the company drivers.So if you lease and l/p doesn't sound any different,you;re nothing more then a company driver making their trk payments and fixing their junk off you're hard earned poverty wages only to stay broke.Companies know what they're doing and I bet some have A poster in their office that says(THERE'S A SUCKER BORN EVERY MINUTE).Come on drivers wake up and don't let companies get away with ripping you off,you're far better then that.
     
  7. Bogi

    Bogi Light Load Member

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    Stay away from giants like this, the will #### you up.
     
  8. thebeeladyintn

    thebeeladyintn Bobtail Member

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    I spent 3 years as a company driver and the rest was owner op. I had my own truck but sold it as it was getting on in age. Lease Purchase is not a bad deal with a good company. I had a month long nightmare with Celadon and bailed quickly. However I did try to make it work with US Xpress but I guess since the kids took over the company has slid to the bottom. I wasn't really looking for favorable reviews, I just posted to let others know of my awful experience with US Xpress. A public service announcement to forewarn potential leasers in advance of what to expect. I had a great lease purchase experience with Roehl Transport ten years ago. Don't know how such an agreement would be with them now.
     
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  9. rambler

    rambler Road Train Member

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    I am impressed at the lengths some people will go to just to say I own/lease my own truck. Why go through all the crap when you can do better as a company driver with a good paying company. A L/P is nothing but a company driver position.............but with many more headaches.
    Ya think you got trouble now..if you didn't tax yourself properly (and a great deal don't) your troubles will increase come April '14. Sorry it didn't work out for you....next time do EXTENSIVE homework before taking the plunge.
     
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  10. Florida Playboy

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    My thoughts exactly. I think some do it for the "freedom." Guess what you actually have less freedom than a regular company driver as you're tied to the truck and usually can't just quit without a major financial loss and trashed credit history.
     
  11. thebeeladyintn

    thebeeladyintn Bobtail Member

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    I make twice the money in an L/P agreement than I ever made as a company driver. I spent 10 years as owner op, part of it in a L/P, do you think that I am some sort of greenhorn as far as the taxes go? In the first 2 years I did hire a company to keep track of the receipts and file the taxes for me, but for the last 8 years my wife does them and takes care of all of the quarterly taxes. I do my part by saving and giving to her every receipt no matter now small that has to do with the truck. She has gotten pretty darn good at it too.

    I was pretty surprised that I was asked to sign the L/P agreement before seeing the truck over at US Xpress, but I didn't think that truck would be that bad. With the exception of my month long nightmare over at Celadon, my last L/P experience was good. However there were other factors over at US Xpress that contributed to my "walk away" that had nothing to do with the L/P agreement.

    Driver to Broker: Yes I do like the freedom. I like to run hard for a couple of months and then take an entire week off. You can't do that as a company driver. I think its one day off earned for every week on. To handle the expenses for that week off, I hold back a ticket. No trashed credit here, my agreement is walk away at any time.

    I like the company that I signed with. They in turn appreciate my driving style and habits. We had a bit of a bumpy start with my first run out to Vegas to pick up an abandoned truck. Whoever had that truck, trashed it. It was so nasty, I had to hold the steering wheel with surgical gloves. Second run cross country with a truck that had no AC. I guess since I weathered those two awful runs with a positive attitude, I got a new truck that is covered under warranty. A huge bonus in the repairs department. I can tell that this company has a good rep with DOT since I have been waived through all that I have encountered so far. Trailers are tops, and high dollar. So far, and as far as I can tell, this could be the beginning of a beautiful relationship. Yes we are still in the honeymoon period, getting to know each other, however I like them, I am not dealing with un-professional, and poorly trained fleet managers and they like me. I have all the miles that I am willing to drive.
     
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