Updated Idle Laws by State

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  1. U.S. Otriad

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  3. pattyj

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    There's only a few states on that list.I live in Iowa I don't think we have an idling law.
     
  4. U.S. Otriad

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    Nope, you don't in Iowa!
     
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    One note about idling laws, especially or drivers in trucks with no APUs - get a medical exemption, like if you have sleep apnea and need to run the engine to keep batteries charged, or if you're on meds/rx that require refrigeration, etc... tons of exemptions available, BUT you need a verifiable note from a licensed doctor.
    This doesn't mean you won't get the young buck Barney Fife arguing with you; but if cited, you'll win in court.
     
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    Do NOT I repeat do not follow the letter of the one written in Maine. "Idle as needed in temp below O."

    You keep that dam engine going. Do not whateer you do shut that thing off. You might not get it going again. Your batteries for one live on that charging you feed to em. Shut that off and they get cold and hungry like really quick.

    I don't see anything for Arkansas. I can also say we are a free state, not a emissions one. You can run straight pipe if you like. Go idle, stay cool or warm as you like it here.
     
  7. U.S. Otriad

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    Amen! I kid thee not truck driver... I delivered in Presque Isle, Maine one February morning- arrived night before, I ended up nosing the tractor as tight against the wall as possible, with blankets over it, with the motor purring loudly just to keep the inside at 35 degrees; it was -70 below and who knows how cold with the wind chill - for the first time in my life, I saw two things; fifth wheel grease freeze into plastic, making me an 80' straight truck - lol, and propane pour out as liquid with NO vapor/evaporation - all 12,500 gallons of it.
     
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    That tells me your environment is at -45 or below according to the Propane liquid.

    I don't have the courage to be around at sunrsie when temps breach -44 and start rising because that is where Propane boils off into vapor just like water does to steam at 212 F. Basically hang around long enough you are in a mixed fuel air bomb.

    We have some propane in our area. huge railroad type capacity tanks taking a tanker load once a week or so and more often in winter.

    I have reached the end of my knowledge with this stuff. I don't know if a pump made to move air such as a turbo for example can move fluid? How do you get to decide to move both liquid and some vapor? Even if you had it in a given container, a percentage will be liquid and the rest a vapor.

    A long time ago at the race track near Timonium we had a major fire department event where someone lit off a 800 gallon propane tank inside the infield. It came out like a silver liquid onto the grass hunting the highway flare that was lit and tossed that way. The heavily armored man ran and dove behind hard cover before the flare got there.

    When it did, I was approx 100 yards plus from the ignited tank that went ahead and started venting fire into the sky like it as supposed to. The problem is I don't know if that tank was super modified to prevent a bleve from taking place. (To this day I think it was.) we were treated to several water cannons coming in to fight this thing and burn off the entire tank in a hour or two.

    Sunburned believe it or not from infrared heat radiating from that source that day.
     
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    In America pets get treated better than people.
     
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    That's funny.
     
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    What Temperature do car Batteries Freeze at During the WInter? - Gil's Auto Sales

    Somewhere on google is a actual chart of freeze temps for batteries. But that article above states MINUS 76 degrees for a fully charged and functional battery. 12.6 volts or better.

    If the battery is 12.0 volts. That's considered a discharged battery and will freeze at 32 degrees. The freeze point of water. At that state. The electrolite is 100% water.

    At 12.15 volts. The battery is 25% charged. The water is 25% electrolite. Freeze point is 10 degrees. I think it is.

    At 12.3 volts. 50% charged. 50% water. 50% electrolite. MINUS 10 for freeze.

    If the batteries can't withstand the freeze. It's time to have things looked at.

    I'd be more concerned about fuel gel below 20 degrees. That's when i always kept my truck running. Even the webasto or espar had a habit of starving for fuel. Although i never had a problem parking my truck close to the house in january. With no electricity for the engine heater.
     
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