under 10k lbs need dot yes or no?

First, I don’t think you followed the link, it is not the same page you cut and pasted.

Second, please learn the difference between inter and intra. It is an important difference.

Local delivery, like a bike courier or pizza delivery, is usually covered by city or other local business licenses. There is a reason most of these services are a 5 mile radius or less.

Amazon delivery contractors should have a sign or placard with the DOT number. Should they be using a personal vehicle and not displaying it, they are headed for problems.

Uber and lyft are covered under livery regulations, these are usually at the state level, some counties and cities also have regulations for “taxi” or “ride services”

 

Ask a dot officer you need numbers ,

 

Usually they do not fall under interstate commerce.
A bike courier is definitely not, unless maybe they work in Texarkana or the like....
Pizza delivery and even Amazon are the same. As long as the shipment does not cross state lines it's Intrastate. And Amazon, as the shipment is from the local warehouse to the house it's not likely Intrastate.

Lets do the flowchart from the link posted above...
Do I Need a USDOT Number?

Are you a Motor Carrier, transporting property or passengers in commerce?
I answered Yes

Select One
A. I am an interstate carrier

Does one or more of the following apply?
A. I am a for-hire Motor Carrier

So again answering Yes
It takes me to the DOT # sign up page.....

 

The business or corporation does. The van, no. Dot has no authority on vehicles under 10,000 GVWR

It's a moot point, no one will deal with you without an mc# and dot numbers now come with it on the unified registration

(Edit: doesn't stop them from trying. I know someone that got a ticket for no DOT number displayed on an under 10k van. All he would have had to do is fight the ticket, it would have been thrown out. Under 10k is NOT a commercial vehicle by definition)

 

I have well over a million miles in cargo vans driving in the USA. No dot # displayed

You'd think, if they could, one of the DOT inspection teams would have said something when I park beside their rest stop blitz inspections, or pulled me over. They can't

I completely agree it's confusing wording whether the website or calling them, or an uninformed DOT officer. Talk to two, you get two answers

Under 10k = not commercial is the important rule

(Load that van over 10k however, and you're commercial by default. Putting "under 10k" on the side of a dually box van doesn't help either. Goes by manufacturer plate)

 

Or hazmat or number of passengers.

 

True. I don't mess with any of that...hazmat paying enough to be worth it, those days are over I think

(And I can't stand passengers. If I wanted a taxi id drive one )

 

Well the states have a say in this and most states require dot numbers as a form of registration and those have to be displayed on the vehicle for hire.

 

You do know what you just said right? States regulating federal jurisdiction...

Anyway you are absolutely right, and I even found a few internet sources leaving out the key factor 10,001 lb and over...but until somebody high up re-reads your consititution and corrects who's in charge, federal rules will apply on federal jurisdiction.

(Could be worse. I'm living in a socialistic paradise)

In every case I've been able to find, states have aligned their laws with FMCSA...id appreciate the list of states that will ticket you under 10k, I haven't been everywhere

 

You can drive a small straight truck or a sprinter under 10k lbs without a DOT number. Make sure not to get too overweight because that can cost you a big fine at the weight station. Other then that you will be fine. Those who say you need it don't know what they are talking about. They go by the book which makes no sense since different states have different laws. I have driven for 5 month now and I can tell you 100% that you can drive without DOT. I have been to every state but Alaska and Maine so far, also been to Canada. Never had any issues.