Is it legal to pick up two different loads with the same trailer from two different brokers? I'm asking because my company wants me to start taking a picture of the back of the trailer so they can see if they can fit a partial load in there.
Two loads same day different company's
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Nothing illegal about it in a general sense.
The contracts with brokers/shippers may or may not prohibit it, but it would, at worst, be a contract issue only.Last edited: May 31, 2019
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Only issue is that sometimes a broker will book exclusive use of the whole trailer. So if it’s just 1 pallet, they are paying for the entire trailer and don’t allow a partial load on there. Some
Flatbed load partials anyway and just deliver them first, but sometimes it’s risky. With a dry van and seals matching paperwork this is probably impossible.Dino soar, singlescrewshaker, QuietStorm and 2 others Thank this. -
Some carriers thrive on such opportunities. However, the ethics and contractual issues might occur, if a shipper/broker want the trailer to be used exclusively.
Many carriers laugh about ethics and potential liabilities and as a result seals are often tampered with and then at best the load bars are mounted and additional pallets are hanging on them but often "do not double stack" pallets are double stack, pallets are broken down and unwrapped, boxes put on the floor - in order to gain space, then before delivery the whole thing is undone at "friendly" warehouses. Deception techniques can be very sophisticated but that's a different story. This phenomenon is possible because receivers by large, rarely notice anything wrong with what they receive. They acknowledge the seal arriving intact and the carrier feels indemnified from any claims at that point. Sometimes, however, any damages will be noticed by a customer purchasing a product at a store.
The carriers doing so, in their own justification, say that this is business and they don't steal anything, that they are able to apply better judgment as to consolidation methods-in other words, they know better than a shipper, if the pallets can be double stack or not. They also say that, if they were paid enough, this would not have to be done.
No wonder why, I sometimes see an annotation on a loadboard posting on a load coming out of Chicago "no IL carriers"Dino soar, Midwest Trucker and Dave_in_AZ Thank this. -
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What @TallJoe said. Some freight bills specify exclusive use, even if there's only 2 pallets in the whole trailer.
If you violate that, and then you're late or something gets damaged, you won't have a leg to stand on. -
If they want exclusive use of the trailer for a partial load make them pay for all 53 feet. If they won't. No exclusivity.
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LtL. Us little trailer guys thrive on this. A few years ago when I 1st started, it wasn't uncommon for me to have 4 or 5 3'-12' partials weighing total of 17,000lbs or less. All from different brokers. #### ton of paperwork.. Now it's mostly 1 time sensitive load paying exclusive use. I will be grabbing some LTL tomorrow though, hopefully just 2 will make my rate..
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Nothing at all wrong with it ethically or otherwize, infact it is just good business if the partial is in route.
Anytime a broker wants exclusive use of a trailer, it is in the contract.
Like mentioned above, it would be a problem with a sealed load.
I once picked up a load of used scaffolding in Amarillo going to Buffalo NY.
In the contract was exclusive use of the trailer.
I figured it tobe a full load, but when the forklift operator asjk me where I wanted it, and I ask how much there was, it turned out to be what was on his forks/ A stack of junk shelving 8 foot long by2 foot wide and 16 inches tall. I told him to turn it sidewayse right behind the step, so it would look like I was empty.
I asked why exclusive use of the trailer and why even ship this junk, which was probably worth less than 50 bucks total.
His answer was that it was left over when they built this facility and the manager at the corporate office had been after him to ship it back for two years, he wanted him to PAY for it. lol
He also told me he didn't care if I added to the load, he just wanted them billed for a full load. lol
It was friday evening, so to late to mess with putting any partials together anyway, so off I went. lolsinglescrewshaker Thanks this.
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