Trucker 10 meter channel like CB 19?

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  1. darthanubis

    darthanubis Heavy Load Member

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    If already asked and covered I did not find it upon search of this forum but did elsewhere.

    I'd get my ticket and mostly bypass CB and the trash on it all together. At most run two radios.

    Is there a 10 meter channel drivers use? Couldn't we talk across states theoretically?

    28 MHz Interference Observation:
    by W6ZKH on December 14, 2011 Mail this to a friend!
    Want some listening action on 10M, just tune around 28.055 mhz and listen to the nice 2 way AM conversations between truckers or even base stations. These arent converted CB rigs, but actual ham rigs they are using, as heard them saying "I am using a Yaesu FT857 mobile with a 'kicker'.." They even brag about not adhering to the CB bandplan and on their own private channels, etc

    Found on Eham.net
     
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  3. TheDude1969

    TheDude1969 Heavy Load Member

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    You would think the export radio users would have a channel a band above or below, but I never heard anyone. Long time ago you could find a local conversation on SSB, but not so much any more. Makes me wonder if there is anything on the FM side other than static?
     
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    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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  5. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    28.055 voice conversations will mobilize small armies of hams with DF gear, as it's right smack in the middle of the portion of the band set aside by FCC (with input from the ARRL) for CW ("Morse") and digital non-voice conversations. If it persists, the FCC will send out a couple of Field Engineers to take over.
    If you've *GOTTA* use the actual ham band, at least get your ###es up above 28.300 and make up some sort of callsign so you don't stick out like a sore thumb. A lot of hams use that mentioned freq range for weak signal work (including CW propagation beacons, and for the well-heeled ham, EME (moonbounce).
    As was mentioned, might as well just use the space between 27.405 and 27.990 or so, where you only bother da gummint on some lightly-used military and business freqs.
    I've got a soundcard DF hardware & software Doppler unit that can take a "waveform photo" of the rise time and quirks in the transmitter's oscillator stability as it locks onto frequency, with a 15 degree wide path to the offending transmitter. This rig also works on the aviation band, so I can help DF an aircraft's ELT.
    A lot of us folks participate in monthly "fox hunts" to keep in practice, and for those of us who service public safety agencies, we get called upon to find either innocent stuck mics and malicious jammers.

    BTW, using AM in the lower part of the ham band will also point one out as a clueless violator.
    Also BTW, it's so simple to get a legit Technician license that bootlegging in a protected, licensed band is hardly worth the effort anymore. You can get a list of the questions in the test pool, memorize them all, sit for a test ($10 or 15 for the examiners' copying costs), and any moron with a modicum of memory recall can get a legitimate ticket. It's way easier than when I got my Novice at age 9 (55 years ago), then General with 13 words per minute, then Extra with 20 wpm. No Morse is required for any license class anymore.

    Go to Icomamerica.com and download their free Amateur Bandplan chart -- it's free. For the diehard scofflaw, it'll at least show you where one can maybe get by a little longer before the big pink ticket with Notice of Monetary Forfeiture shows up in your mailbox.

    Sincerely,
    73
     
  6. L.B.

    L.B. Third Generation Truck Driver

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    I got my technician through laurel ve for free. Just got to get around to testing for my general.

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  7. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    Congrats, L.B.! Even the Tech opens up 300 Kc (oops, KHz -- did I mention I'm old? ;) for CW & digital, and another 200 Kc for "phone" (voice) on 10M, and it opens up the world above 50 Mc (oops, MHz..I'm old...) for good ol' FM repeaters, with band segments for the aforementioned PSK31 and packet digital, APRS (in case for some reason you *really* want hams everywhere to know where you are, every minute of the day...) I even *enjoy* working Morse with a straight key; I've logged 58 countries with less than 5 watts and a wire antenna on CW. But then, I'm old (did I mention that? ;)

    Hope to see you down the coax.
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  8. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    Yo, Dude! The "FM side" still uses the same frequencies as shown on the radio's dial, but it essentially triples the amount of channel space as AM (about 12 KHz as opposed to around 3). When there's sufficient signal strength to "fully quiet" a receiver, it's clean and pleasant to listen to. But on 10M, it's retricted to the frequencies above 29.000 MHz, so it's no co-inky-dink that that's where the 10M repeaters are located.

    Rolling down the road and just idly flipping the mode switch to FM will make you pretty much unintelligible to AM CBs, as well as tearing up a channel or two on either side of where you're talking. It's *possible* for an AM receiver to copy FM signals through a process known as "slope detection", if the AM receiver's I.F. filters are sufficiently steep so that one edge of the modulation envelope intersects the AM receiver; the one last true use for Delta Tune that hasn't been reassigned to variable power output or some stupid !#*$(@I! noise toy. :p
     
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  9. darthanubis

    darthanubis Heavy Load Member

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    So handlebar, in English man, is there a frequency where this can be done? I've so much research before I can understand half of what you share. But I do appreciate the input.
     
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  10. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    Sorry, my attempted reply from last night (sneeepy!) didn't post. If you've got an import that uses, say, Band D for CB, there will probably be a section in the B or C bands that are quiet. I personally would google the likely candidates on a site like Radio Reference daht cahm and do a search for US Nationwide freqs under some of the Alphabet Agencies and US Mil agencies. Most of the former allocated freqs for the domestic spooks have been migrated to odd VHF & UHF agencies using all manner of encryption and linked repeaters, so it's likely that *no one* is using them. Besides, keep moving, and no one short of one of the DoD fancy schmancy RF-based DF rigs (like from OAR Industries in San Diego) will every get a chance to fingerprint your transmitter AND find you, all at the same time.
    Also the couple of "CB channel spacing freqs" above and below the legal 40 should be fine. As was pointed out, 26.915 often has activity; so do the places above 27.405 up to around 555.
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  11. L.B.

    L.B. Third Generation Truck Driver

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    Google "freebanders" they like to use the spaces between CB channels and other pirated frequencies. You might find some freqs to use on their websites.
     
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