Trip Planning Tutorial

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  1. I am medicineman

    I am medicineman Medium Load Member

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    Okay, time to "contribute something useful" on here.

    Another member asked about some sort of "tutorial" on trip planning.

    So here is "MY" tutorial on planning your trips.

    Feel free to add to my "way" or pick it apart, or whatever.


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    When i would preplan my trip, I would consider several things.

    Weather, Traffic, Road conditions, speed limits, shortest distance, time til delivery, and hours I had left.

    Easy way to figure the ROUTE, is to lay the ol ruler on the atlas and see which roads will allow you to take a "straight line".
    Not that this is always the BEST route.
    Sometimes those "pig trails" are not the best route to make time and run safe. And some are down right DANGEROUS.
    (US129, "The Dragon", in TN is one example of what to AVOID.)
    But running ALL INTERSTATE can hurt you a lot more than it helps.
    Sometimes those 2 lanes are a godsend to cut miles and time.
    Especially out west.

    If you can run later at night, you can avoid a lot of traffic that would slow you down in daytime.
    Also a lot of scales have the big word out after 11pm or so.
    Avoiding big cities by using loops is always preferrable to bustin down the middle in daytime, and will not leave you in a traffic backup.

    Is there a lot of road construction on that highway?
    Is the road covered in water/ice/landslide???
    Do you know how to find out???
    You should always find out road conditions before you choose the route.
    It's not hard. Just ask.... and maybe watch weather channel instead of dancing with the stars.

    Back in my day, there were several areas where I had the opportunity to run either side of the state line.
    Also to run faster in day than night.
    One example would be crossing into WA from OR and running the North side of the river between Cabbage and Portland. 2lane, but less "hours" in the book.
    Plan your route to make best time.

    How long you have to get the load off is a big part of your decision.
    If you are pressed for time, you don't want to lag around waiting for day speeds or take alternate routes that eat up time.
    And of course..... KEEP THE DRIVER DOOR SHUT AND YOUR FOOT IN THE PEDAL.
    If you pick up in Long Beach on friday morning and need to deliver in Dallas on Saturday night, you don't have time to watch movies at the truck stop.

    Hours I had left were more difficult.
    I ran HARD, and would be over my "10" in no time and still happily cruisin down the road.
    (i think the 10/8/5 of the old HOS was better than 14 in a row, but that's just me)
    No comment on my "70". Lets just say thank God for "looseleaf" or I'd never have gotten home on time.
    (the 70 rule IS the ONE thing they could eliminate and would actually make things better)
    But the deal with hours is to make sure you have what it takes to make it on time.
    Picking up without the hours to deliver is not good, no matter what your dispatcher tells you. Cause you NEVER get a appointmet "just a few hours later". Its usually a day or more later.

    Another thing is what I wanted to do or see.
    If I had the time, I used to route so that I could do something or see something that "I" wanted to do/see.
    Example......
    I used to run hard at Quartzsite to allow for a few hours there to shop around and still get a nap and make my delivery.
    Another time I ran hard and went to a relatives and spent Saturday Night til Monday morning there.

    Just depends on what you want out of your trip.

    And don't be too proud to ASK SOMEONE.
    Other drivers are generally willing to tell you how they run a trip, especially those that do it all the time.


    Oh yeah,
    Plan your trips so that the miles are "close" to what you are getting paid.
    (or what "dispatch miles" are)
    Some companies get kinda weird if you run 20/30/40 percent more miles than they gave you, and remember their movers guides are already 10 to 15 % SHORT before you ever turn a wheel.
     
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  3. Xcis

    Xcis Medium Load Member

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    This post is not intended for you experienced drivers. I am posting this for the newbies and the wannabe’s. I am well aware that experienced drivers can and do take liberties with the spirit if not the letter of the law that is the Hours of Service Regulations. I prefer to have those inexperienced drivers follow those regulations religiously. At least until they get comfortable with commercial driving during the first couple of months. If they can avoid accidents, they will have plenty of time to learn how to "creatively" do their logbooks.
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    . The following example while done in Microsoft Word will give you an idea of what your spreadsheet should ultimately look like. While it does not include the 70 hour / 60 hour or 14 hour rule specifically, it gives you the general idea of what you can create. It ain’t perfect but at least it is a starting point. The Enroutes used under trip planning are basically tire and safety checks that under the FMCSR [federal motor carrier safety regulations] that you are supposed to be doing every 3 hours.
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    . ......................STARTS .ENDS
    .ROUTE... STATE... EXIT ...EXIT ...MILES ...........TRIP PLANNING
    . ..........................................................Listed trip mile
    . ..........................................................Max. miles (Listedmiles * 1.1)
    . ..........................................................Hrs driving (max miles / 50)
    . ..........................................................Enroutes (Hrs driving / 3)
    . ..........................................................Hrs Enroute (Enroutes *0.25)
    . ..........................................................Already used hours on-duty
    . ..........................................................Subtotal hrs (Hrs driving+
    . .......................................................... already used)
    ........................................................... Dot breaks (Subtotal Hrs /10)
    . ..........................................................Hrs Dot (Dot breaks * 10)
    . ....................................................................REQUIRED HOURS
    .
    . ..........................................................Meals (Hrs driving * ???)
    . ..........................................................Showers (Hrs driving / ???)
    . ..........................................................Hrs showers (Showers * ???)
    . ...................................................................PERSONAL HOURS
    . ....................................................................FINAL TOTAL HOURS





    Note: Using Office 98.​
    To change the margins in Microsoft Excel press File, Page Setup and Margins. Set the top margin to 2inches and the left, right and bottom margins to 0.25". You can also centered the sheet horizontally and vertically.
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    Next click on the tab titled "Sheet". Make sure gridlines is checked. Then press OK.
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    In order to print the gridlines correctly, enter one space in the lowest right corner of the sheet and press Enter to display all of the gridlines.
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    Before printing the spreadsheet use File and Print Preview to see how it will look before you print it out.
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    You can create your own grid display in the top 2 inches of margin if you cutout and tape a portion of a logbook graph and then make copies.
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2011
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  4. Bazerk Wizz Bang!

    Bazerk Wizz Bang! Medium Load Member

    Simplifying the complicated a bit. My perspective.

    First step: Figure out your routing
    Most drivers have there routes determined by there dispatch, I can pick my own route. I always look at the route given to me and only change from it for the following reasons.
    a.) Can I improve on it.
    b.) Does it take me on road I dont like (I-70 grand juction to Denver
    with heavy load).
    c.) Is there something I want to see going another way
    d.) Is there something like bad weather heavy traffic ets. I can avoid
    by choosing a route of my own.
    e.) Scenic route: big part of why I got into trucking. If I have the
    time and it wont hurt me, I will always drive the little county and
    state roads over the interstates. I have to take a bit of xtra time
    to reasearch weights an hights but 2 me well worth it.

    Second step, factor in all the things on your route that will slow you down.
    Look at your routing and add in the extra time where its needed so you dont end up late and so all delays that come up are planned for not unexpected. I look at big cities and from experience I know how much time I will loose driving threw each one, even a new driver can come pretty close, experience just adds refinement. A lot of times I will make the decision on the fly to take a loop or shoot threw a city. Experience helps here as well. Time of day, looking at the traffic, hitting the local radio for a minut or so, turning on the cb for a minut or so. Weather effects your routing and times as well. A quick 30 second glance at any weather station thats on a display at any truck stop will let you know if further research is needed on your route. Internet on your I-phone app is easiest way to research it further.

    Third step, figuring out my Hours of Service available and times I will drive Apx times and places I will rest.

    When I was new this was the hard part for me, gets easier with time, now my brain just does it automatically without me even thinking about it. I know what all my recap/rollover hours are in my head for the next few days ahead, I glance at my logs at the end of my shift the new numbers are just automatically factored in and adjusted. These are the hours assuming I havent had a 34hr restart in last 8 days i can legally drive for each day. When I started I had to wright it down on a notebook page. Ecample: 1/23 8hrs on 70, 1/24 9hrs coming back, 1/25 11hrs coming back ets. Figure out the time I would drive, expected miles for that time based on possible delays (experience will refighn it to almost an exact science), and the time I had available and would drive the next day. I would do this before I even got the trip. I would know my trip top to bottom, how much extra time I had so I could maby plan something fun along my trip. If I would be short on time, so I could explain it to my dispatch almost immediately.

    Always plan to run like hell till you are close to your shipper unless you have enough time for the delay you took pluss 4 hrs.

    Sounds kinda screwey, so I will give an example. I am running from Montana to San Diego. I got plenty of hours and I want to stop in vegas for say 4hrs. Unless I have it planned so my 10hr rest will fall when I am close to Vegas, I will pass on it unless I can trip plan so that even with the extended break in vegas I can still arrive at my receiver in San Diego 4hrs early for redundancy purposes. A late load is almost the same as a wreck in most trucking companies eyes, never take chances. Always see vegas later. Getting a new job much harder than finding a route threw vegas.


    Basic example of my trip plan:

    I am half hour from shipper which I pickup at 07:00mtn. I know that I have about 5 hrs drive from shipper to big city. I will plan to shut down after 4 hrs drive time without stopping the truck once for any reason, look at my gps, used to use fuel guide before gps, to see what truck stops or rest areas are about 200miles from the shipper, I know at noon there will be parking at all of them, not sweating it. Start driving at around midnight fly threw the city, dont take loop becouse I know this city and that at 01:00 I can fly threw there, no prob. I run like hell till bout 09:00 the next day. I got my recap hours back at midnight so now I am good as far as being able to pull full 10hr shifts. Taking the break early actually gave me more time to run, not only that the time I do run will be faster with less traffic, shorter routes, and less weigh stations to hit, only drawback is dealing with the shift changes on the fly, at first constantly changing shifts especially on the fly is a reall bear, massive fatigue but over time your brain adjust to the point where it is the same mentally for you as if you working a standard 9-5 everyday. When I grab fuel always glance at the display TV's at the truck stop to see if any storms are around my next days drive if so I will use my I-phone to see if I need to adjust. Very very simple. In my head I have already figured my drive times and Apx. miles for each shift, when I will arive preferably close to a full clock so I can pick up another load after my delivery. ets. Very simple.
     
  5. Artbroken

    Artbroken Light Load Member

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    Is there a "thank the thread" button?

    Thank you, posters! :biggrin_25514:
     
  6. I am medicineman

    I am medicineman Medium Load Member

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    GREAT ADDITIONS GUYS !!!

    Here's another "tip" for logging FROM THE OLD DAYS...... (AKA.. "how we used to do it")

    Say you drive from Dallas, TX to Amarillo, TX.

    You are (hopefully) going to make this run on US 287.
    And the mileage is: 365 (+/-)

    For this exercise, we will say your truck is governed at 67mph.

    Since you WILL go through small towns and have to deal with stoplights, you cannot show average speed of 65mph for the entire trip.
    So.... for YOUR company, and the DOT, you will want to log it at 60mph.

    You take 365 miles, divide by 60, and the remainder ( 6.08 ) is your number of hours.

    BUT.....
    You can't log 6hrs 8min.
    You have to divide 100 by 60, then multiply by .08 to get the right "time".
    The answer is 0.13, or FIFTEEN minutes.

    You log 6hrs 15min.

    ******NOTICE******

    This was an informational only post.
    I am not condoning anyone to "cheat" in their funny book.
    Also,
    This does not work with computer logs, or if you have a qualcomm tracking your every move.
     
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