Tri axle dump bed size

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I have been looking at different dump trucks to purchase. At the moment I have been looking at tandems that I can put a lift axle under to make a tri-axle.

    A lot of these trucks have 15 foot beds or 15 and a half foot beds.

    I'm looking at that size truck because we also do Paving and a big giant tri-axle is not easy to maneuver, but the truck will mostly be rented out for Paving and Milling.

    I don't plan on hauling topsoil or mulch or any of that type of thing the truck would be mainly used hauling for other contractors hauling Stone,asphalt, and millings and for myself it would haul the same.

    Is there anything I need to be concerned about using that size bed?
     
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  3. tnpete

    tnpete Medium Load Member

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    Hauled for years with 15.5 and 16ft beds. Tri-axles and hauled hot mix 95% of the time. Never an issue. The truck with the 15.5 bed, I could haul 26 tons of mix on it. Here in Tn we can gross 74,000 lbs on a tri-axle. And that truck had a low empty weight. Rest of the truck were stuck with 22 and 24 tons Even when we stopped using 2 ton batch plants. The rest could not get much over 24 tons. I could get 26 1/3 tons.:cool:
     
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  4. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    That's great to hear.

    I like a shorter bed especially with a setback front axle. It makes the truck nice and maneuverable.

    Sometimes I work on small jobs.
     
  5. Sumtinlidat

    Sumtinlidat Light Load Member

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    Shorter bed and set back equals shorter overall length. Rule of thumb is short let wheel base is less overall payload. Just keep that in mind. Idk how knowledgeable your highway patrol guys are about overall lengths and bridge formulas and blah blah blah.

    Either or size box will be fine. A 15 foot box with 4 inches over standard is what we have on our transfers. Made by Columbia. T800’s with a drop. Legal payload on just the truck is 17.5

    What they can fit is whole different story...
     
  6. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    The bridge laws in Pennsylvania allow you to run heavy axle weights.

    Here I don't think it's any problem with the shorter truck hauling the same amount of weight.

    In fact I remember talking with the guys that spec the trucks at a big dealership and they told me that if you had a 15 foot bed your axle weights are always correct because the weight is on the whole entire truck.

    He said when you go longer like a 17 foot bed or an 18 foot bed there's a space between where the Lift axle actually is and the cab and it tends to put more weight on the front axle.

    But he said with a 15 foot bed as long as you have a legal load you won't be overweight on your axles at all.
     
  7. Dirty-Low-Walker

    Dirty-Low-Walker Medium Load Member

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    Never really seen a tri axle with a 15' bed unless it was converted from a tractor or a Tandem, my preference would be a 16' bed with a set back axle, 210"-215" wheelbase, nothing over 225", but that is not taking into consideration of bridge laws which is not a issue in NJ.............YET!
     
  8. AUfan78

    AUfan78 Light Load Member

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    Here, in Alabama, they give 20k per axle(plus tolerance) for construction vehicles. I would leave the Vulcan materials grossing 82,500 with a tare of around 27k. After hurricane Ivan I was coming out the rock yard grossing 93-94k on a '01 RD mack tri axle with a 19.5 yard body.
     
  9. fatmike02

    fatmike02 Light Load Member

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    im a new triaxle dump truck company owner. good luck trying to shoe horn a lift axle on a short wheel base tandem axle dump. why would you want to anyway. to get to legal weight, you load will be falling over the sides. Seems like a waste of money with fabrication and effort for a truck that cant do much. just my opinion. Converting a tandem axle dump with short wheelbase to a triaxle is something that is unheard of for good reason
     
  10. AUfan78

    AUfan78 Light Load Member

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    Another thing to look at is the frame. Most every tandem on the road here is a single frame while the only tri axles I seen in south Alabama that didn't have a double frame were converted tractors.
     
  11. x1Heavy

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    I think that is adequate sized bed.

    Im sorry I don't have hard numbers regarding beds, I'll have to travel to a particular farm near Gettysburg to measure the bed on the back of the Superliner 500 mack I drove for years. (What a truck...) as long you put on enough rock to push the gross weight you usually had enough for a nice 10 ton load of dirt or something. Considering the maneuverability eh... aiming at a paver isnt that big of a deal. She would be a little bit waddling wide back there but nothing too bad if you have a nice set back front end that turns like a witch.
     
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