Toolbox antenna

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  1. johnethan77

    johnethan77 Bobtail Member

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    I decided to move my antenna on my pick up truck from the rear quarter panel by the tailgate to the center of toolbox behind the cab, looks better, slightly higher and farther from damage and theft. But for the life of me I can't get the thing grounded. My SWR is 3 or higher using external meter and Galaxy 959. I grounded the mount to the frame, the toolbox to the frame and to the truck bed. And nothin, no change. Any ideas? I'm sure someone has a good set up with it on the toolbox. Or just move the antenna somewhere else?

    I was also using plain insulated copper wire to do the grounding. Is that my problem? Do the braided grounding straps work that much different? I'm fairly new to this and eager to learn
    Thanks for any advice
     
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  3. mike5511

    mike5511 Road Train Member

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    That is typical of using the toolbox to mount an antenna. I've tried it on several different trucks and never could get it satisfactory. First off, it's aluminum. In answer to your question, you don't ground, you bond. Yes, braided straps are best. Large gauge, fine wire like they use in big stereo installs seems to work well also. Second, you need more than one strap. Bond all four corners. Be sure you grind attachment points down to bare metal. The last truck I tried this on I found the bed wasn't bonded well either because even mounting an antenna to the bed did not solve the high SWR problem. I read where someone had to bond all four corners of their bed to get good results. I gave up and mounted it on the left front fender with excellent results and finally just drilled a hole in the roof and mounted in the best possible place on a vehicle. And, I am planning to drill a hole in my 2015 GMC pick up as well. It won't hurt the value and If I'm gonna put a radio in it, I want it to work as well as possible, within reason,.... as in I won't be mounting a 102" whip up there. :D
     
  4. johnethan77

    johnethan77 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you I appreciate the info. Im going to go get some braided straps this morning and try. I was using very thick solid copper wire lol. And it worked great when was on bed so maybe if I get it bonded correctly it will work. And a hole in your 2015? I'm scared to do that to my 08 lol
     
  5. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    I made a bracket for the antenna and move the grounding point back to the body, which made a huge difference because I could put an additional ground going to the base of the antenna.
     
  6. johnethan77

    johnethan77 Bobtail Member

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    Do you have any pics?... I just hard wired my radio to the battery and grounded to frame, was using cigarette lighter but was getting a lot of interference. I'm about to tackle the antenna situation now
    My toolbox is bed lined and I forgot to scrape it off around the mount lol :rolleyes::cool:
     
  7. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    No I don't, that was 20 plus years ago. However I can give you some details if that helps.

    I made the bracket that went above the tool box by a couple inches so I could open it, it had one lid that you lifted. I tried to make it out of 1/8" sheet metal that I had laying around but I could not get it right so I used a thin wall 3/4 square tubing with a base welded to it that was made out of the 1/8" sheet - it was about three inches or so in length and one inch wide. The base was mounted on the floor of the bed by two 1/4" bolts and that's where the grounding straps were attacked under the bed to the frame and added a couple more to the cab to the frame. I later added on a cross piece welded to the mount making it into a "T" of sorts which was bolted to the bed. Nothing move that mount. The antenna was mounted on the top of the 3/4" tubing, once it had a base loaded whip and then I extended it up above the cab on the mount (added 1/2" tubing that slide into the lower one then welded that up) with a 5 foot whip on it.
     
  8. johnethan77

    johnethan77 Bobtail Member

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    Man that sounds pretty nice! Gives me some ideas as well, I appreciate it. I moved mine from the front of toolbox, to the other side to give it some distance from cab plus it's easier access lol. Added 2 ground straps from toolbox to bed and got SWR to 1.3 across all channels. I'm pretty happy with it so far but I'm sure I'll be rearranging and adding to it lol. I'm using a 4ft k40 tuneable at the moment
     
  9. johnethan77

    johnethan77 Bobtail Member

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    Also seems like getting even more interference now that I wired to battery! Maybe the ground isn't good enough??
     
  10. Ridgeline

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    Just try this, return the power how it was setup before see if that helps.
     
  11. mike5511

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    If you plug it with one of those little black rubber plugs made to do that, they don't even mention it when you go for trade in. Too many trucks used for business get those same little plugs when they are traded in. I've talked to car dealers and they say it won't hurt the price at all. Plus, on a full size PK you can't really see it anyway. Makes the truck look more "balanced" to have the antenna right in the middle also, and it works the best there. I got $6000 for my trade in and it had a plug in the roof. 2000 GMC Sonoma SLE, King Cab, 4x4, 4.3L, Auto w/ 150,000 miles on it. Ended up not trading it in and sold it to an individual for that price. Neither the dealer nor the guy that ended up buying it were concerned about the plug.
     
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