To lump, or not to lump?

Discussion in 'Swift' started by DickJones, Jan 22, 2011.

  1. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    I know it dont pay the same, but have you ever thought about lumping your own load just for the sake of saving time? I'm sitting at a grocery place in KC, they've assigned me a door at 22:15 and my appt. isnt till 00:30. The lumper service dont arrive till 23:30, but this place dont allow driver unloads anyway.

    but it still got me to thinkin'. If the final DID allow driver unloads, and you had an hour to kill (yeah, i know it would take much longer than an hour) would you lump your own load? Swift pays $100 to the driver to unload, don't they?

    Granted you have to break down every pallet, etc., and for one person, would take HOURS and HOURS...and you end up only making like $25 an hour....just wondering what others opinion is.

    please...i'm just asking a general question. i'm not saying "you're dumb if you DONT unload" blah blah blah.....just your opinion about this topic in general....
     
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  3. Hamshoe

    Hamshoe Medium Load Member

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    Drop and hook....or wait and complain about how long it takes to get unloaded...lol...I never want to get in a trailer for any reason....why I don't sweep 'em...I don't even like to open the doors...
     
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  4. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    i wont even comment...LOL...that would be a whole thread in and of itself. =)
     
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  5. Buckeye 'bedder

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    When I worked as a stock boy at Buehler's Markets here in Wooster, I used to unload pallets of baking goods supplies with a hand pallet jack. Those suckers were stacked with 100 lb bags of flours, sugar, etc.. It wasn't too hard wheeling the pallets off the trailer with the hand pallet jack, and it only took about 1 hour to unload. All for minimum wage at the time. It was work, and I was 21 at the time, so who knows how I would do now. At first glance, I would like to believe I would do it, although I am no strapping 21 year old any longer. It's all about the money I am making in a time frame. Who cares if it's is earned unloading or driving? I do know that $100.00 for a couple hours of work averages out to a good hourly rate. Probably higher than what a company driver would earn driving the truck in the same amount of time.
     
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  6. ironpony

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    It comes off of line 4, so its going to affect your 14 - which means your availability for the next load. Most of the time I would rather catch a nap so I'm ready for the next load, but if I'm doing a multiple stop deal with a hosed schedule, I'll lump some pallets just to get it done and be back on the road.
     
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  7. The Challenger

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    I would do it just to get it off. I used to unload trucks and it takes on average 1.5hr to do it. So that is 66.7 an hour for 1.5hrs worth of work. Not too shabby if you ask me. Yes it may affect line 4, but thats a chance I am willing to take. If I am in area with no freight, it could mean the difference between getting a load and not getting a load.

    KH
     
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  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    As a company driver you have to fight for your unload pay. First you'll see that it is not on your paycheck. Then you send the trip info,trailer number, date etc to your DM via e-mail and qualcomm with a note that your were not paid to unload the 3 stops on that load. Then you'll typically hear nothing back and call your DM and remind them of the same info over the phone. They will promise to take care of it and meanwhile 3 paychecks go by and you still have not been paid off unloading that trailer a month ago. So you keep hounding your DM about it and you see this mystery payment for $50 on your next paycheck coming up when you log onto the Swift portal. Call DM, 'what's this?', "oh that's your unload pay", 'but I unloaded 3 stores, 5 stops...', DM:" I will look into it". That will be the last time you will hear about it from your DM.
     
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  9. blsqueak

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    Many years ago when pulling a reefer, I used to haul alot of Land O Lakes butter, usually 6 stops, and those I would lump in a heart beat. Knew most of the stops, and along with the stop pay, I would usually pick up an extra $300, for a total of about 5 hours work. One stop was just a straight pull of 4 pallets, lumper $40, give me the power jack, pull and out the door. The ones that I always hated where the places that it was sort and segregate. Take forever.

    Here is a question for you, if you decide to lump, and you get injured, even in their trailer, but doing something other than driving, will workers comp cover. I know that when I was with USX, Dollar General, that was driver unload, and was injured, so covered
     
  10. DickJones

    DickJones Road Train Member

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    i dont think it will. Last time i was at this grocery stop, swift didnt have an account setup, and the charge to lump was $90. Like a dummy i paid cash....and this was in Nov. of 2009....and i STILL havent been properly reimbursed. i even sent them my paystub where they claimed they reimbursed me, the lumper receipt i paid cash, all the info. Heck, i even sent in on its own piece of paper the following:

    -90 + -90 + 90 = -90

    maybe they couldnt understand simple math. i paid cash, and on the next paystub it showed deduction of 90 and reimbursed for 90......ok...those two "wash"...and i'm still i the hole my $90.

    anyways.....this time around, the tab was $270, and i went in with a comcheck. Naturally, now Swift has an account, so its just billed to them.

    fine with me. if they'd only pay me $100 to unload, sort and all that crap-o-la, but pay the lumper almost 3x as much.....let them pay the extra. Want to pay me the $300...i'll do it lickity split. =)
     
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  11. Injun

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    When I was with Prime, I dealt with lumpers a lot. Average twice a week, I was shelling it out to those racketeers. The times I did it myself, I charged about 75% of what the lumper wanted and my FM made sure the lumper reimbursement part of the revenue matched.

    The differential between Swift's driver unload x-pay and what they're willing to pay a lumper is one of my few complaints about Swift.

    For me, it depends on the load. If it's a complicated pallet breakdown with lots of heavy stuff, I'll cut a Comcheck. But I never pay cash.

    And I think ol' Hamshoe needs a Firestone load or two.
     
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