Tire inflation

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by kutuzov, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. kutuzov

    kutuzov Light Load Member

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    I'm an o/o since September. My truck and trailer come with recaps, and I let them wear before buying new tires. The wear also helped me determine other staff that needed to be done to truck/trailer. Have to redo all 10 brakes drums and pads, all 10 shock absorbers and alignment. I now have the tires to even wear where I can buy new ones and I know they won't go bad for other pieces of equipment not working correctly. In the process I have learned some basic maintenance things, and even was able to fix minor mechanical problems like the trailer abs. My trailer come with a meritor auto inflate system too, that I've learned how to set. So now I'm all in on buying the remaining 10 tires that will have my truck/trailer out of recaps for good.

    So I started researching the best psi configuration for the tires and it seems the original 100 psi is "overinflation". I have 18 295/75/22.5 tires. The recommended psi by manufactures is 75 psi at 65 mph, 80 psi at 70 mph, I normally cruise at 65 mph but occasionally on a real tight load I go full speed limit 70-75 mph or even 80 mph in the mid west. So taking that into account and the fact I don't wanna run the bare minimum brings me to 85 psi per tire, except the steer that I'll keep at 110 psi.

    Now and here is my real question I have settle for 90 psi on drive and trailer. The trailer has the auto inflate so I can relay on that for a 85 psi set up, but the drives don't I sincerely I don't check psi on a daily bases I do bang the tires at least twice a day but I don't have the time for pressure check every day. So if I run 85 psi on trailer or even 80 psi on trailer and drives at 90 psi, would that be a future wear problem?
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Under 80 will get you a violation if checked.
    Those recommendations don't account for load weight. The weight also plays a factor for ideal pressure for each load. That being said, I have always done 100 cold all the way around and have never had irregular wear due to pressure. I hope you are buying good tires not Chinese junk. Often the expensive tire up front lasts a long time without any headaches and in the long run costs the least. Should also note the conditions you are driving in play into it also. The pressure will increase if you are driving on say I 10 in the summer. More speed = more heat = more psi = lots of blowouts on that stretch. For me, 100 cold is the way to go.
     
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  4. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Yep I wouldn't go any lower than 100 psi (unless its actually stamped on the tire that the max psi cold is lower).
     
  5. kutuzov

    kutuzov Light Load Member

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    I got Yokohama on my steers with 37k miles (I wanted Michelin but couldn't afford it, maybe next time ...), then I started researching tires and prices, Bridgestone is the way to go but my budget won't allow the extra $$, a Bridgestone is like 600 without a national account. So I went for their number 2, Firestone. I got 4 new FD691 on drives, and 2 FT591 on trailer so I need 6 New for trailer and 4 for the truck. Next time I'll do Michelin/Bridgestone but as a new o/o firestone is what I can afford. I got the speedco store card and they do 6 months no interest on $299 or more purchases at about $4500 for the tires I need to nail $900 a month to pay it off no interest.

    100 psi not 90, on drives and trailer is best the.
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    80 isn't a problem. 1/2 of the maximum cold inflation pressure stamped on the sidewall of the tire is when they deem it to be "flat". Problem is, if you run tires marked 120 max inflation and only air them to 75 psi because you run light, you aren't far from the 60 psi where they'll say you have flat tires...a slow leak gets you there in no time, and it'll thump quite similarly to the other tires.

    The other thing to consider is that tire squat is something officers look for if they want a reason to harass you. If you're tires seem to be squatting more than typical, you might just have your weight checked with a set of portables. Personally, that's reason enough to keep them aired up to 100 or so. I don't like giving an officer ANY reason to stop me for a chat if I can help it.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I don't understand how you can have tires at 80 pounds and consider it able to carry it's weight rating? 80 to me is #### low and I consider it abuse or neglect. 100 is my number.

    I never had a yoko or mich fail on the steer. Then again I have never really had a failed steer unless you count the one in which the steel belting was already bad and revealed itself on a patch of ice.

    600 is alot of #### money for a tire. Im expecting 300 to 500 at most. For that kind of money they might as well be the best offered in the freaking industry. Nothing less but the best possible in terms of traction, mileage wear, weight capacity and so on.

    I cannot offer much else, as a company driver I usually ask for and get a complete 10 new tires around first frost every year in october sometime usually in TN or some such. Im expensive. But I don't recall too many tows that can be blamed on bad tires in winter.
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    https://www.yokohamatruck.com/commercial/tire-tools/inflation-pressure-calculator

    Every tire manufacturer has tables showing your tire size & load rating, along with the recommended pressure to run at various weights. Most are in pdf form, so search for them. Yokohama has a good generic calculator...just enter the information and it spits out the answer. Says I ought to run 95 in my steers for 12K and 80 in my drives for 34K. That is MINIMUM recommended pressures, though. I keep 110 in my steers and 100 in the drives.
     
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  9. kutuzov

    kutuzov Light Load Member

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    You are right about DOT, I was once in Denver CO, with a flatbed and they stopped me just because my load looked heavy. I show him the bols and weight was under 30k so he said my tires looked flat to check them (he just didn't wanna admit he was being an #######), tires where fine with 100 psi.

    I'll settle at 95 as my tire pressure. And 110 for steering. Thanks!
     
  10. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Usually you're spot-on with your posts, but not this one. Your first two sentences are absolutely wrong.

    I always follow the tire manufacturers recommended pressures which give the best combination of load carrying, ride and tire life.
     
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  11. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    100 to 110 is the standard.

    If you want to run low. And be harassed for tires bulging. Guess that's your decision.

    BTW. You didn't say anything about bearing tightness. That makes a difference in proper alignment and I believe is routine maintenance at 100k miles. They do wear and get loose. Ya know.
     
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