Thrown into dump truck business

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Fredy, Nov 5, 2021.

  1. Fredy

    Fredy Light Load Member

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    Good afternoon folks, I am looking to get advice (advisor)
    I am taking over a family trucking business; there are 3 2015 w900 dump trucks that have drivers and subcontracted work.
    My question is, apart from having a maintenance schedule, learning about truck parts and repairs; is it better to "break" the fleet and have a separate company own the truck? Similar to how landlords can have properties under different lllcs to spread risk (i think) This is to lower insurance costs. What other long term advice would you give?
    What would be pro and cons of just selling two trucks and staying with just one (i would not have to pay employee and workers comp).
    TYIA
    @street beater (tagging you since you've helped start the dumpster business)
     
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  3. Don379

    Don379 Heavy Load Member

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    im in the dump truck bussiness. The way you talk, im not sure how you can profit. Most guys like my self with 1-3 trucks make money by driving one of them and maintaining all of them. You got it, owner must have mechanic know how to pull a trans, take motor apart, do diagnostics. Own laptop and software to go into truck computer. Change tires and install. Its a rough bussiness but in the end of the day it pays great and can live very very comfortable. I think your talking about going under a broker. You wont be saving on anything, it will equal out or be lesser. Im running one truck now. Less headache and easier to maintain and whats mine is mine. Still around 200k a year with 2 months off in winter. Pay little to no taxes at end of year with the amount of right offs.
     
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  4. Fredy

    Fredy Light Load Member

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    How long did you run multiple trucks? What made you think it was not worth it? I have a good mechanic and am getting familiar with the business, I just want to know how to keep costs down long -term. Thanks
     
  5. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Light Load Member

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    my trucks are owned by another Corporation and then leased back to the trucking company there are some tax advantages but the main reason is the trucking company has very little assets that can be had in a lawsuit they can get all my insurance and I have all my equipment to start again but I have not needed this in the 30 years I have been in business, this does not lower my insurance cost that I'm aware of.
    3 trucks can be profitable but after years at 3 I now have 5 and the overhead cost are easier to cover with more trucks for me I think 6 or 7 is all I can run without having to hire more office help for my wife and me and my 1 mechanic can handle.
    It is very important in my view to spec the trucks for the job so they are as dependable as posable and I like that all 3 of your trucks are the same it makes maintenance and repair so much faster and easier to stock the parts and the and you can be ready for repairs that other trucks have had already.
    I am going to go out on a limb hear but I bet Washington DC is a good place to run dump trucks because it is a very high end area with people always knocking down old houses and building new that is what keeps me busy hear in San Diego we do not work for poor people only the rich pay to move dirt or some government entity
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  6. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    Offer the drivers to sell them their trucks, if not sell them and/or the contracts to someone else and try to negotiate the driver keep their job and cash out, this is not over the road trucking and experienced guys have enough problems making it in this industry

    your other option is sell 2 trucks and put thar money to a excavator and tag trailer and see if one guy wants to labor/drive, then it becomes a nessicary evil not an attempt at making money

    if getting costs down and insurance down to pinch pennies to think you will make money pull the plug now because you will never be happy with what you make
     
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