Thermoking evolution APU Issue

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  1. alemiss

    alemiss Bobtail Member

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    My thermoking evolution apu keeps blowing the 7.5amp clutch fuse and the code it shows on my computer when i hook it up to the USB on the circuit board is "Code 10, high pressure discharge".

    It's not a shutdown code, it's a "Check" code.
    Unit does not shutdown, it keeps running but the compressor stops working as the clutch is not engaged anymore once the fuse blows.

    The thing is, when I put in another new 7.5amp fuse, it works again, runs for a few minutes, clutch engages as well. And after a few minutes, it blows the fuse again.

    I read a few threads on here suggesting to hookup a manifold and monitor the pressures, high side and low side.
    Here, ambient temperature is about 96 degrees and very humid.
    My low side read between 15 to 20; it stabilized around 18
    My high side read about 195.
    It ran for a few minutes like this and blew the fuse.

    To me the numbers look low pressure readings, it needs more freon.
    Also since the fuse blew when pressure wasn't even high, my conclusion is the HPCO switch is bad.
    I have not checked the switch itself for continuity.

    I also suspected a short somewhere but wouldn't that blow a fuse right away? why would it work for sometime?

    But what do you guys think?
     

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  3. JB7

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    Pressures are low especially for the high temp and humidity. Is the belt tight? The belt or compressor clutch may be slipping. There is also a resistance check for the clutch, usually between 2 and 5 ohms. Clean the condenser.

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  4. JB7

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    I doubt a bad high pressure cutout switch would blow the fuse. If there was actual high pressure or a bad switch that cut out at too low of a pressure, then the contacts/switch would open the circuit stopping the compressor to prevent damage.
     
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  5. alemiss

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    Yes, it's possible the belt is loose or clutch may be slipping. When clutch engaged, it squealed a good amount before it quieted down. But the belt doesn't feel loose to the touch or twist test. It has pretty good resistance when turning it 90 degrees.
    Also, do you expect this to blow a fuse? or the fuse may be unrelated to this and is caused by something else? The only code i got on my computer is "Code 10, high pressure discharge".
     
  6. JB7

    JB7 Medium Load Member

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    I have a thermo with High discharge pressure code. What does that mean? (justanswer.com)
    In the above post tightening the belt and cleaning the condenser solved the problem.

    A squealing belt means it is loose. Tight may not be tight enough. A gauge is best. Yes, some will say they can do it by feel, those that do it all the time. I have used a gauge to set to spec and you may be surprised how tight the spec is. Also sometimes there is a deflection amount at center between pulleys. A general rule is 1/64" for every inch of belt span (distance between the 2 pulleys) Belt probably damaged but you can try to tighten first. Try the simple, easy things first. If tightening the belt and cleaning the condenser does not work then the problem is elsewhere. Check the resistance on the clutch. It may be that it only blows the fuse after a few minutes because something is heating up the longer it runs.
     
  7. alemiss

    alemiss Bobtail Member

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    Okay, definitely will tighten the belt and wash the condenser and see what happens. Also will check resistance on clutch. Will report back for others to use this thread as learning opportunity.
     
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  8. alemiss

    alemiss Bobtail Member

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    Well I was pumped up today to open up the APU and do a lot of work. First was to tighten the belt.
    So I removed the bottom cover and discovered this: the three rubber knobs thingys on the face of the clutch plate came off and were sitting in the pan. The plate itself is now loose and wiggling all over the place.
    The APU wasn't used today. I run it last night to test it, when it sort of functioned for a few minutes before it blew a fuse. Those knobs were in place at the time. They came off on their own today, as truck was being driven around, I guess.
    This clutch/compressor is definitely shot to hell. I have a compressor ready to be swapped in. Will do that during the weekend.
     

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  9. alemiss

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    Okay the problem turned out to be the compressor/clutch. I replaced the Compressor and ofcourse the dryer and now no more blown fuse and works normal. Belt was good as well, so I didn't have to change.
    I guess the blown fuse can be explained with something inside the clutch shorting, given how bad the clutch was and the front plate was wiggling all over the place. But I can't explain the "High pressure discharge" check code, without having any higher than normal pressure anywhere. Oh well
     
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