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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by jfar28139, Aug 8, 2013.

  1. Aug 8, 2013 #1
    jfar28139

    jfar28139 Light Load Member

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    I have a team running a van. One has his hazmat endorsement/certification. The other doesn't. Never thought to run hazmat with them as I assumed both needed it if both were going to be driving on the load. Broker (of all things) told me the other day shouldn't be a problem for the non-hazmat driver to be driving on a hazmat load so long as the other driver in the truck had his endorsement. That doesn't sound right to me but I wanted to ask if anyone has any authority on the question?

    Thoughts?
     
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  3. Aug 8, 2013 #2
    Bob9814992

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    No No No. The non-hazmat cannot drive a hazmat load. He can ride along but cannot log and on duty time. The certified driver would need to run and log as a solo. This is my understanding of the law. If you want a definite answer call a state Hazardous Material number listed in the front of your Rand McNally Map. For North Carolina it is 919-715-8683.

    Don't trust the Broker, he just wants to move the load.
     
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    jfar28139 Thanks this.
  4. Aug 8, 2013 #3
    flood

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    how can you tell a broker lying HIS LIPS ARE MOVING and this is true in this case...

    the driver DRIVING is required to have has-mat. if only one of your drivers has has-mat then THAT driver is the only one that can drive when has-mat is in the van....
     
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  5. Aug 8, 2013 #4
    jfar28139

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    Thanks. That is what I figured.
     
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  7. Aug 9, 2013 #5
    jerseyguy71

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    probaby could if the amount being transported doesnt require placards.....a full load no way....the brokers will say anything to get that load moving...lmao...probably was ch robinson wasnt it ???
     
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  8. Aug 9, 2013 #6
    fortycalglock

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    You are a properly registered and insured hazmat carrier, correct? Just because your drivers have that little endorsement doesn't mean you are a hazmat carrier. The very fact that you came here to ask tells me you aren't. Of course, whoever is driving the hazmat load MUST have hazmat.
     
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  9. Aug 9, 2013 #7
    kw600

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    Fortycal is 100% on the money. You MUST be properly registered and insured as a hazmat carrier, even if you do one load. If you have an accident there WILL be problems, lawsuits, fines, possibly even jail time. Especially if your driver(s) dont have that endorsement; which is a MUST to haul a hazmat load, requiring placards. Dont try to risk it, if something COULD go bad, it WILL go bad
     
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  10. Aug 9, 2013 #8
    rollin coal

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    CHR won't ship a load until bases are covered, they'd be the last brokerage I'd think that'd pull a stunt like this. Sounds more like a smaller brokerage that doesn't do hazmat normally with no concerns about their own liability

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  11. Aug 9, 2013 #9
    jfar28139

    jfar28139 Light Load Member

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    We are properly registered with PHMSA, insured, comply with hazmat training regulations and run hazmat in the US and Canada legally. I am sorry if you felt my question was ignorant. My question made clear that I thought the guy didn't know what he was talking about but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
     
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