Teach me about 1099 and lease purchase

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Beupsoon96, May 2, 2023.

  1. Beupsoon96

    Beupsoon96 Bobtail Member

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    I'm being forced to go lease purchase to get back on the road, so I need to learn all I can before I do so. I have 8 days to research before I go to the carrier orientation and pick out my truck.

    I know basically nothing about lease purchase or 1099. I've driven 22 months though, so I can definitely keep the wheels rolling. I just have to swallow my pride and ask for some help.

    I need to know about the taxes as a 1099 driver. What can I write off, how do I determine how much I'll owe, should I actually hire a CPA, should I pay taxes quarterly or wait till year end, and what do I need to ensure I won't be screwing myself in the long run? Will I be paying IFTA and/or any other taxes? Go into as much detail as you can.

    I'd also like to know what to look for in a reliable truck. I have a choice between 2019 to 2023 used trucks. I would like to hear which you guys favor and why, which are better on fuel, more dependable, which have more room, best comfort, ect....

    Before you spout nonsense about going company driver or bank loan, I can't. My credit is trash, so I definitely couldn't get a loan. I'm also a SAP driver. I refused a test over pot last November and pretty much threw my career down the toilet. So I'm not gonna find anyone to hire me as a normal w2 driver for atleast a year. I've applied to probably 40 companies, actually. None will take me without my Clearinghouse steps fully completed. I'm at step 5, Return to Duty test.

    One company is gonna give me this shot, and this is literally the only way I can get back on the road right now. I've learned my lesson, but I still have alot more to learn. So please, any of you old heads that have experience as an independent contractor/1099, teach me what I need to know. I appreciate any input, even the unasked for criticism I know I'll get.
     
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  3. The Green Mountain

    The Green Mountain Light Load Member

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    Set 35% aside to pay your taxes.
     
  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Even at an honest trucking company that hires you to do 1099, you need to save 25-30% of each dollar you are "paid" to pay your taxes (self-employment, income, state income, etc). You should pay your federal taxes quarterly, but you can pay them next April 15 if you don't mind paying a penalty for not paying them quarterly. You will not be covered by worker's comp or have health insurance unless you buy them for yourself.

    You will sing a contract that obligates you to pay the xepenses of the truck whether you made money that week or not. Lease purchase payments are your obligation, but the trucking company is NOT obligated to give you enough work to make those payments.
     
  5. loudtom

    loudtom Road Train Member

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    The lease purchase programs seem like a scam. Most of these companies charge excessive lease fees and pay barely more than a company driver after expenses. After paying your share of the taxes, I'd be surprised if you make more than a company driver. If you want benefits, you'll have to pay for them out of your pocket. You can't take your truck and work anywhere else. If they want your truck to be governed at a certain speed, painted a certain color, or whatever other rules they want to impose, then you have to follow their rules. You are basically an employee, except they don't have the burden and liabilities associated with it.

    They are also in charge of what you make. They are not obligated to give you work. They can keep you strung along until the end of your lease, and then starve you out so that they can repossess the truck. I personally know of one person that this happened to. My advice is to find a different line of work. Driving a truck is not the only way to make a living.
     
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  6. Beupsoon96

    Beupsoon96 Bobtail Member

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    When drivers say set so much aside, is that from total pay I earn before payments, deductions, and so on?

    I seen an example of a driver who showed his check stub. He ran 5200 miles for 7 day, made 9k before everything, and brought home 3800 after it was said and done.

    If I've gotta save 30% give or take from a 9k week, which is a #### good week, after payments and all, that'll leave me broke basically. Few hundred bucks a week to go to me.
     
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  7. DRTDEVL

    DRTDEVL Road Train Member

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    Save every receipt. Hire a CPA. Form an LLC before you start, if possible. Make sure its a legit CPA familiar with the transportation industry so you aren't caught by surprise later on. After the first year, you will be required to send quarterly estimated tax payments in to the IRS, the CPA will assist you with those calculations as well.

    Set aside money for taxes... the 35% is a good guess, but that's 35% after deductible expenses (fuel, per diem, equipment, lease, insurance, etc.) So 35% of your settlement less $350/week is a good ballpark (ex: $2300 settlement after expenses, less $300 = $35% of 2,000, or $700 in the savings account... leaving you $1300 take home. Best case, you now have extra savings for breakdowns the next year, worst case, you only owe a few thousand at tax time (instead of tens of thousands).

    As for trucks, you don't need anything flashy. Find the best Freightliner Cascadia midroof with a DD15, DT12, and aero package that you can. The taller the rears, the better. We're talking low-2s here. APU if possible so you aren't burning all your profits when parked. These units can average 8.5-9 mpg loaded when driven properly.
     
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  8. Beupsoon96

    Beupsoon96 Bobtail Member

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    Well, recruiter said I'll not need an LLC. Evidently I'll be running under theirs.

    But I do appreciate the comment on the truck. I did plan on a cascadia since that's the truck I've gotten my experience in. I'm concerned about Def system issues though. Trucks at the last company had to have mobile mechanics come to me to force regen atleast 5 or 6 times within my 10 months there.
     
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  9. DRTDEVL

    DRTDEVL Road Train Member

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    Biggest reason for that? Idling. If you have to idle one, bring the RPM up to 900 using the dash controls.

    And definitely form the LLC. Trust me. Protect yourself.
     
  10. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    get yourself an otr performance plug and play tool.

    Can force regen, and such, get the one that’ll bluetooth to phone,$200 or so for machine line $500/year.

    One good regen and clearing of codes will save that from downtime and shop
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    The recruiter is giving advice that works best for the trucking company. As a 1099, if you don't protect your interest nobody will protect it. Tons of first year lease-operators fail. One reason is they spend every dollar they are given from the trucking company like it is from a W-2 paycheck and then the next April 15 they learn they owe the IRS for a year's worth of income. MOST of the YouTube videos of some newbie signing a lease-purchase contract show the truck driver living large for a few months and then poof they stop posting. A $15,000 bill from the IRS can really take all of the fun out of pretending to run a business. The tax laws and the regulations apply to you even if you did not know about them. The IRS seldom gives a discount for "not knowing."
     
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