Switching from 11r 24.5 to 445/55 22.5

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by 7.3 cowboy, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. 7.3 cowboy

    7.3 cowboy Light Load Member

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    For hopper work by the ton would going from tall 24.5s to super singles be worth it for weight savings. I figured up that just in the tires themselvs it would save 688 lbs. Any opinions on switching ?
     
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  3. Hurricane69

    Hurricane69 Road Train Member

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    If you order a new trailer with super singles they put in a heavier axle. Most of the weight savings is lost. If I remember correct the up charge is like 4k and they don't give you any extra when you trade it back in over duals. I figure payback on two years because that's how long I keep them.
     
  4. baha

    baha Road Train Member

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    U will gain 3or4 hundred RPM
     
  5. 7.3 cowboy

    7.3 cowboy Light Load Member

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    Its on something I already own that will need tires soon just weighing all options. It has a 18spd and 3.55s
     
  6. SL3406

    SL3406 Medium Load Member

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    It's more like about 150 RPM
     
  7. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Offset is very important when switching ! 0 offset is best to stop axle flex. 2 inch offset is bad for axle flex. Have heard flipping the 2 in offset yields good results, 1/2 offset if not wrong. Getting track 1 inch wider , total . Shop around for used rims , can save a bundle! 0 offset put the load center over the bearings.
     
  8. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't do it. Singles aren't all that great. Just talked to a grain hauler today when I was waiting for my truck to heat up. He didn't mind his and only ran them on his tractor. Said he saved about 700lbs, but he was going back to duals noticed no fuel savings what so ever. I've always ran duals and always will. His biggest complaint was picking up nails and what not and being completely screwed. You're running a hopper, there's a lot of crap laying around the elevators you can pick up in tires. I wouldn't recommend it. Yea you get a 700lb weight savings. Hauling wheat depending on what you're getting per bushel you're looking at maybe $6.50/load. On DDG or a tonnage rate you're not getting much back either. Not to mention the problems in the winter if it snows. Or if you're loading off the farm, the traction loss in the mud. That was another complaint of his traction. Dry pavement he didn't notice much of a difference. In the mud on the farm, no traction he couldn't dig in like a dual. I've got stuck with duals before, but it would've been worse with singles.

    And as stated with the trailer there is virtually no weight savings after the new axle, You're better off with duals. And if you're running a spread axle hopper you'll lose a lot of tire life as singles don't wear well on spreads. I don't think highly of singles. Never have I know there's some people that will disagree with me. But I'm also no sitting on the side of the road waiting for road service is a tire decides to let go. Don't have a $800 bill for a new tire and another $500 bill for a rim either. Nor do I have to worry about them finding me a tire either.
     
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  9. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    We switched our hoppers to ss. We came up with about a 400 pound weight savings.

    Going on two years and have not had a single issue with them.
     
  10. wore out

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    300 rpm. At 1600 with his set up the 24 run 77.8, at 78 mph with the 22.5 eng rpm came out 1900 rpm. I could be wrong done the math in my head assumed his 18 has .73 overdrive. I think he is just looking to gain ground clearance if he gonna pull a hopper.
     
  11. 7.3 cowboy

    7.3 cowboy Light Load Member

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    Ill lose ground clearance going to ss according to goodyears website comparing the same design tire in those sizes the ss is 4'' shorter. I have noticed a lot of guys with just ss on the trailer and not tractor. I have heard that you usualy lose a rim if you have a blow out like 379 said. I run quite of bit of tow lane road and do not want to deal with being broke down on some tiny gravel shoulder with a destroyed rim. Why do you need a heavier axle for ss? I have never heard of guys putting heavier axles under a trailer when switching to ss. The hopper is not a spread sometimes I wish it was.
     
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