So I have an interview with Armellini Express Lines in Palm City, Fl on Monday (7/15/13) and it will include a road test. I wasn't really sweating it until I did some research on there trucks. They run International Pro-Star's and they look quite nice. Excited to get started except for one thing that has me a little nervous. The research I've done on the trucks says they have Eaton Fuller 13-speeds. So being that they are described as the most common and popular transmissions I'm sure Armellini has them in there prostar's. The problem is in school I practiced on an Eaton Fuller 10-speed which I managed to figure out after the third 2 hour session. It didn't take me long. Now watching some you tube videos it doesn't seem to be all that different then the 10-speed I shifted. But I have a couple questions. I noticed there is an extra switch on the side I will call (for sake of argument) the side switch as well as the main front selector switch I will call (for sake of argument) the main switch. Now I gather that the first 4 gears I will go thru just like the 10-speed I was famaliar with. Then flip the main selector up to go into high range after I shift into 4th & before I shift into 5th. Here's my first question? Once I shift into 5th and I'm on the low side of 5th....when I'm ready to go to the high side of 5th I flip the side switch to the front and as far as the pedals go do I just depress the accelerator to break torque and then press it down again or do I also utilize the clutch as well? I'm realizing once I am in the high range of gears 5, 6, 7 & 8 the side selector needs to be pushed back to get ready to go into the low range of the next gear. How am I doing so far?!?!
My second question is can you bypass the high/low ranges on the high side and just straight shift gears 5, 6, 7 & 8 like you would on a 10-speed? And if you can do you leave the side switch in the low position? I most likely won't be shifting that way on my company road test just curious.
My third question is are there any other differences other than the obvious between a 13-speed & a 10-speed. Also one more thing. When I am shifting in the high range (5, 6, 7 & 8...when I'm going between the low end of the gears & the high end of the gears do I shift it at the same RPM's as the whole gears? In other words say for sake of argument a good shifting point for the gears is 1600 rpm. When I go from say 5 low to 5 high do I depress the accelerator pedal at 1600 and then press it again to shift it?
Ok recap on questions....
1) Once I shift into 5th and I'm on the low side of 5th....when I'm ready to go to the high side of 5th I flip the side switch to the front and as far as the pedals go do I just depress the accelerator to break torque and then press it down again or do I also utilize the clutch as well?
2) Can you bypass the high/low ranges on the high side and just straight shift gears 5, 6, 7 & 8 like you would on a 10-speed? And if you can do you leave the side switch in the low position?
3) Are there any other differences other than the obvious between a 13-speed & a 10-speed. Also one more thing. When I am shifting in the high range (5, 6, 7 & 8 )...when I'm going between the low end of the gears & the high end of the gears do I shift it at the same RPM's as the whole gears? In other words say for sake of argument a good shifting point for the gears is 1600 rpm. When I go from say 5 low to 5 high do I depress the accelerator pedal at 1600 and then press it again to shift it?
Everyone on here has been so helpful in the past couple months since I started my professional driving journey and combined with you guys & gals and what I've seen and did both in school, the internet and hopefully with Armellini I can't wait to get started. Thanks again & safe travel's!!!!
Scott
Some guidance on shifting a Eaton Fuller 13-speed!!!!
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by gearjammer1978, Jul 12, 2013.
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Those trucks have the new style 13 speed, it's more complicated. The shift pattern is like a H with a W through it. It's not bad once you get the hang of it.
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If you have never had a 13 speed you aren't going to be a pro and not everyone has had experience with every tranny. look at the shift pattern sticker in the truck. Ask if you can have a few minutes to practice with the 13 since you are only used to a 10.
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Simple, for your road test drive it like a 10 speed.
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Have you driven a '9'?
The 13, just has an extra switch. You couldstill drive it like a 9.Bud A., Jrdude5, blairandgretchen and 1 other person Thank this. -
That must be nice.. Being new and being able to drive a 13 speed. Try a set of sticks. If you have driven a 9 speed you won't have any trouble with a 13 or 18. Except on a 13 you split the top side and on an 18 you can split both high and low side.
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1) Once I shift into 5th and I'm on the low side of 5th....when I'm ready to go to the high side of 5th I flip the side switch to the front and as far as the pedals go do I just depress the accelerator to break torque and then press it down again or do I also utilize the clutch as well?up
You are correct, once you split a gear up or down just let go of accelerator and it'll shift on its own (i would recommend using a clutch on your test drive with an instructor)
2) Can you bypass the high/low ranges on the high side and just straight shift gears 5, 6, 7 & 8 like you would on a 10-speed? And if you can do you leave the side switch in the low position?
Yes you can when empty or very light, but again its not recommended...
3) Are there any other differences other than the obvious between a 13-speed & a 10-speed. Also one more thing. When I am shifting in the high range (5, 6, 7 & 8 )...when I'm going between the low end of the gears & the high end of the gears do I shift it at the same RPM's as the whole gears? In other words say for sake of argument a good shifting point for the gears is 1600 rpm. When I go from say 5 low to 5 high do I depress the accelerator pedal at 1600 and then press it again to shift it?
Shifting RPMs will vary from weight of a load and terrain (up-hill, downhill)
Also once you get used to 13 speed you'll love it its best out there in my opinion
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Driver quit freaking out. For your road test shift it like a 9spd. when you hit the top hole, flip the slitter forward let off so it'll catch the gear and get back on it. When you start slowing down let off, kick the slitter back, step back on, catch the hole gear, and then drop gears like you normally would simple as pie.
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