Sliding axle tilt trailer

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  1. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    I think I'm in the market for a sliding axle tilt trailer. Preferably a good used one but may have to go new to get the options I need.

    The deal is that we are in the machinery moving business and I've currently got a 1995 Trail King sliding axle trailer. I like it a lot but the crossmembers are about rusted out from under it. I'm going to repair it as it's not worth much in it's current condition and I've spent years getting it set up like I need it. The problem is I really have to have another trailer as I can't be without while the old one is being repaired.

    The only design problem with the Trail King is they used tubing crossmembers. The reason for this is they were trying to save deck height and still have room for the axles to slide. The problem is that when they screw the deck down to the crossmembers, they create a hole for moisture to get inside the tubing and they rust from the inside out. For the repair I'm going to replace the tubing with channel. The channel won't be hardly as strong but I think it will hold up ok for what we do. There is also channel running length ways the entire length of the trailer where our forklifts run so that helps support the weight also.

    The first thing we do on all our trailers when we get them is rip out the wood where the forklifts we haul track and replace it with steel channel. Our heaviest forklift we haul with that trailer weighs 40,000lb and most of that weight is concentrated on the rear axle, wood won't hold up very long.

    Another thing we have on our current trailer that is a must is cylinders between the axles that will raise the rear of the trailer up to dock height. You'd be surprised at how many plants we go into to move machinery that don't have a ground level entrance. We need to be able to unload forklifts on the ground or on a dock when needed. I know Landoll has a tilting tail trailer that will go to dock height but I really don't like tail tilted up to dock height and you have a angle transition from the tail to the trailer. From time to time we will need to skate a large machine from the trailer to dock and that transition would just cause problems.

    Anyway, I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anybody had any thoughts.
     
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  3. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    I would still replace with tubing but maybe add a small piece of angle to the outside and bolt the decking to that.

    Have you looked at a hydraulic sliding tail trailer by trail king? Might be the best of both worlds with that but you are always going to have the upward tilt to a trailer such as these just because they sit so low compared to the docks.

    I am not familiar with your lift cylinders. Do they work like jacks and lift the entire trailer off the ground? Maybe trailking still makes those?

    Another thing you can do when you get the new trailer and/or rebuild your trailer is to seal all the wood with a penetrating concrete sealer so the water runs off instead of soaking into the boards. Thus extending the life of the cross members.
     
  4. wesland24

    wesland24 Medium Load Member

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    My company purchased a new trail king last year seems like a good trailer except for the fact that it literally takes 10 minutes for the axles to slide , trail king even came to the yard and looked at it and said everything it operating normal. Just something to think about If you decide to purchase new
     
  5. macavoy

    macavoy Road Train Member

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    What didn't you like about the landoll? I drove them quite a bit a few years back, ours didn't have the lift to dock height but I've seen them.
     
  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I've pulled a Landoll before that had the dock lift, but never used it. Aren't you supposed to tilt the deck first while leaving the axles back before raising the tail, giving you the relatively straight transition from the dock to the trailer?
     
  7. macavoy

    macavoy Road Train Member

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    Mack

    Was that an older dove tail that you drove?
     
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Looked like this....

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  9. macavoy

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    Yea, I don't get what he is talking about. The transition is relatively small when spread over 40'
     
  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Electric forklifts are a different animal though. Ground clearance on those is nearly non-existent.
     
  11. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    The dock lift cylinders are just cylinders mounted between the tandems with feet on them that go down to the ground and raise the whole rear of the trailer off the ground. I'll try and get some pics of it tomorrow. I have also raised the front of the trailer with the tilt cylinders to level things up but most of the time this is not needed.

    The Landoll siding axle tilt trailers work fine for dock work if they have the lifting cylinders. What I was talking about earlier was Landoll also makes a tilt tail sliding axle where you can raise the tail to dock height. What you end up with is the trailer pretty much level and the tail going up a incline to reach dock height. These two different angles can present problems when trying to skate a long machine from the trailer through a dock door.
     
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