I have driven tractor trailers for 9 years. I got my start in trucking hauling cars for a dealership using an F350 dually and a one car trailer (I know, it was overkill).
I'm thinking about hauling cars for myself and it seems a tractor is better than a 3500 or 4500 dually pickup when hauling 4+ cars. I'm not sure if I would want to buy a single axle tractor for the sake of 4 less tires to maintain. I imagine a single being a rougher ride and worrying all the time about being overweight on a single axle (20,000 lbs) when you are allowed 34,000 on a tandem axle truck. Can anyone with experience hauling cars with both please offer me advice?
Sleeper tractors; single or tandem axle?
Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by Rumble Strip, Jul 4, 2017.
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Anything over 3 cars a tractor is always better, as far as your question goes, single vs tandem, that ALL depends on what you envision your hauling base to consist of and what kind of trailer and number of units you are looking at, without that info it will be tough to chose.
You could play it safe and just buy a tandem, I have seen tandem axle tractors pulling wedges, but in my opinion you let a lot of money on the table, between tire cost, maintenance, component cost, fuel mileage, tolls, etc.
Buying a tandem right off means you could move to a larger trailer in the future without changing trucks, so again, it just all depends, at some point, you, being and O/O, just has to take all of the info available, and make a gut decision, only you know what you want to do and where you want to be down the road, nobody else can answer that question for you.Ziggy319, brian991219 and Rumble Strip Thank this. -
Ive seen quite a few tandem axle trucks that just run outer wheels hauling the wedge type car and rv trailers. Or you could get a single axle that has enough wheelbase to add a lift to make it a tandem if you need to carry more weight.
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A tandem would not let you get stuck where the singles might. Then again one would consider the wisdom of transporting small cars in a winter storm to a auction house that might not have a high population that day.
It's overkill. But if you are afraid of weights get a tandem. and remember that you will be tossing a bunch of money feeding that big boy until you find something bigger for it someday.Rumble Strip Thanks this. -
Listen to @KANSAS TRANSIT , he studies these things for a hobby! Really it does come down to your exact operation, we can't answer this question without knowing more. Here are a few things I have learned from almost two decades of owning or operating high-mount car haulers with single axle tractors;
1) Weight is usually not an issue unless you are planning on hauling 7 or more on a regular basis, or operate in states that only allow 20,000 pounds on your single drive axle. I ran mostly NY & PA, was allowed 22,400 on my single drive and saved thousands of dollars in tolls running the NY Thruway and NY City bridges daily.
2) As Stan said, tires and brakes can be a money saving factor, although if you are rough on your brakes or jack rabbit start (stomp on the throttle) your single axle drive tires will not last more that 80-90,000 miles. I always got better tire and brake wear out of my tractor then my hired drivers did, even when using the exact same truck.
3) Single axle trucks ride just a well as tandem trucks with air suspension, and will turn a little tighter if you are running in a city environment. Now, if you plan on being one of the high-mount heros that run their front loading ramp all the way out and try to put a full size pickup or van on the top deck and still get three more units behind it, yes you will notice the handling difference. Now, I am being a bit of an arse here, but it is a pet peeve of mine when operators severely exceed the over hang laws as it brings attention to all of us that we don't need. Currently law enforcement is on a over hang enforcement kick with regards to high-mounts and I firmly believe it is due to the increasing number of operators abusing the rules, welding 6' extensions onto their 53' trailers and stupid stuff like that.
4) If you are only hauling 6 or less (5 would be a safer number) you can register your combination weight low enough to avoid filing the 2290 Heavy Highway Use Tax. In addition to the couple hundred dollars saved each year your overall registration costs will be lower since apportioned registration is weight based.Rumble Strip, Hulld, Ziggy319 and 2 others Thank this. -
I haven't looked in a while at the used single axle market, but several years ago they practically gave them away when comparing the same mileage, year, condition single axle to a tandem. I would think a longer wheelbase single axle low mileage tractor would be a great place to start. I like the idea of putting a liftable tag axle later if the you need it and the frame is heavy enough.
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I suppose that a single-screw would be okay for a smaller trailer. But for a full-sized car hauler, you best stick with a tandem axle setup. We had one of those a long time ago and, while the truck was in Florida, it was okay (nice, flat land). But, once you get into the western U.S., with its nice, long grades, you will wish like heck that you were driving a tandem axle once you start smoking brakes on those mountains with a full load.
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If you are smoking brakes on a single axle at less than 50,000 pounds, park the truck and look for other employment. JMHObrian991219, haycarter, VTech and 4 others Thank this. -
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