sleeper requirements

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by atmeyer, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. COBB2070

    COBB2070 Medium Load Member

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    And here's a video, year old, but he points to the regs that show you can sleep in your back seat, but can't log it as sleeper, but logged as off-duty.

     
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  3. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    No law requiring you to log sleeper unless you’re in one .. your good to go after 10 hrs off duty whether it’s in your back seat or a motel
     
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  4. dynamite

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    If you want to log for split sleeper using a pickup, there is this option. Woodhouse
     
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  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    You cannot log sleeper berth unless you have a FMCSA compliant sleeper berth. Sleeping in the back seat of a dually pickup is not a sleeper.
     
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  6. atmeyer

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    not sure the accuracy of this video, but the claim is you can do it just not log it as sleeper time
     
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  7. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    A lot of the confusion comes from the fact that in the past one could not sleep in the back seat and log off duty.
    In, I believe, 2012 that changed.
    Old law:. (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:

    New law adds the following exemption.
    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;

    Now that does means no hot shot team driving as the vehicle must be parked to count as off duty. Every conversation I've seen also pulls the front passenger seat, so that makes it hard to comply with the requirement when you do have a sleeper and are running teams.
     
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  8. MartinFromBC

    MartinFromBC Road Train Member

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    Carry a tent, air mattress and sleeping bag.
    If they ask you put the tent up and slept in it.
     
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  9. atmeyer

    atmeyer Bobtail Member

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    okay.... i will be solo for a while. perhaps a team with my brother after he retires from his current job. i know it is necessary if you are going as a team
     
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  10. x1Heavy

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    I don't understand the sudden recent attraction for hotshots. For many years we have a few here but generally by and large they do a little bit here and there well enough. But now everyone seems to be piling into this.

    Also regulations further stipulate for 1 Ton and up hotshot trucks (Pickup etc) they must have a functioning DOT approved ELD wired into the vehicle and capable of a range of very particular tracking now.
     
  11. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    And yet X1 is wrong again.
    ELD law says nothing about a 1 ton truck. It's all about weight ratings or if one hits any of the exemptions for ELD's.
    Most likely a one ton will need ELD's for hotshot because of weight ratings, but not because it's a 1 ton. Heck if one runs a one ton on the farm, like I would guess a majority of one tons are used for, no ELD needed.
     
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