Sleeper Berth Time in a Day Cab?

I ran a daycab for 3 yrs and found ways to catnap (took a board and pillow across seats)..but cant log sleeper berth!! DOT will not recognize---a sleeper berth is supposed to provide 'quality sleep' by design! Had to get home every night or stay in a motel....

 

I don't know all the "actual" sizes you must have a specific amount of room for a "
place to sleep". I will say if you have a day cab, you can not say you are in the sleeper at any point.. You will need a hotel room or "somewhere" you rested. Meaning if you went to Grandma's house then you could use that, but you might need to show proof (how, ????)..
To sleep while under a load in the truck there is specific qualifications (I don't have them now and don't feel like searching DOT regs tonight, sorry ).

I do know what you are doing is logging 100 air mile radius or you are logging OTR. You need to figure out which rule you are working under for me to help you I am more than game to help you in any way possible, legally .
Let me know your case of what you are doing and I might be able to help a "little" more??
Seriously not being a butt head here, being serious!

 

I don't know the minimum/maximum fine for violating this, but I would bet the hotel is cheaper .
Sorry, they should include that on the loading time .

 

I hate to re-animate a 2 year since dead thread...but in the off chance someone "searches" for sleeper regs for a 'day cab' I will....

About a year ago, the Province newspaper in Vancouver BC ran a special insert all about the Canadian Football League team, the BC Lions, and about how the team travels by plane for games...but the equipment goes in a hired Ryder truck.

In the article, the writer travelled from Vancouver to Winnipeg, nonstop, with the two equipment managers along the 1500 mile drive. They were bragging about how tough they were to be able to drive straight through with only stops for fueling, and that they can usually do it in about 30 hours, or more, depending on conditions, given the Rocky Mountains to be crossed.

??!!

The writer sat in the back and "dozed off and on" on top of equipment bags that had been placed to give him a make-shift "bunk" while the co-driver rode shotgun and "dozed with his head against the window in case he needed to spell the driver..."

And the writer's angle was, again, how "amazing it was their dedication to the job, that they could drive it straight through...".

The article said that the manager generally drove straight through on his own! Big tough guy, eh? Well, the bigger they are, the harder they fall....

I wrote a letter to the Province newspaper (who is a big supporter of this football team, and had published the 'hooray!" article) as well as the BC Lion's PR office expressing my concern about the absurdity (and illegality) of this manuever...

I asked if by having employees of the team drive the Ryder truck the 30 hours straight though, rather than having a professional carrier do it, they are somehow 'exempt' from HOS? (Are they? I think they may be!)

I also mentioned that it would be "none of my business" except for the fact that I have friends and family sharing the well-travelled Trans-Canada at any given time. The idea that there is either a pie-eyed non-professional driver in his 29th hour, or a similar co-driver driving after having spent either 29 hours in the passenger seat or splayed over a group of lumpy equipment bags is horrifying to me!

As a BC mountain driver, I am OK with the odd extra hour or three being fudged into a log book now and thenm- if there's ever a case where you're unlikely to fall asleep, it's going through Golden...but the idea that this "professional" sports team, in order to save a few bucks, endangered the lives of everyone from Hope to Headingsley really struck a nerve with me, by "wiping their arses" with the HOS rules!

In reply to my letter, which was never published by The Province, and to my letter to the writer, and to the CC copy to the BC Lions football team - I received nada, zippo, not even an aknowledgement of my concerns. Nothing.

It shows that there are definitely TWO laws in play...one for us professional drivers, and one for any middle-aged sports team #######es that want to highball across the prairies like so many college kids hopped up on dope heading to Fort Lauderdale for frickin' Spring Break!

Shame on you, BC Lions, and any other sports team that thinks that they are exempt from the law!

JP

 

i agree 1000% with you..........however, what was/is the GVWR of the ryder truck?


P.S. as far as the sleep in a daycab thing, no you legally can't log it as sleeper berth or even off duty. Although i take naps in my daycab all the time, i'm still legal because i get back(usually) under 14hrs.

i also made a custom 3/4 plywood board w/ foam that i could put between the seats. Not comfortable. Perhaps that's the reason for the rule stating you can't log line 2 in a daycab?