simple formula for axel weight

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by kidsdad, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. kidsdad

    kidsdad Medium Load Member

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    Not that I am a so called experienced driver but I have come up with an easy formula for axel weights. All you need is a scale ticket or your weights from seperating your axels on a scale. I used one of my cat receipts for this and have my reweigh to verify results.

    First weight steers 11,440
    drives 30,420
    trlr 32,880

    First subtract the lower of your second two weights from the higher, in this case the drives. 30,420 subtracted from 32,880 = 2,460 now divide 2,460 by 2 = 1,230 this is the amount of weight you actully need to move. ( remember that when you move weight from one set of tandoms you add weight to the other set) now divide that weight by 225 = 5.46 (round off from 50)
    this number represents the number of holes you need to slide the tandoms.
    to take weight off the the trailer count back from pin, off drives count forward from pin. now use a dry erase or grease pin to mark the hole you counted off. in this case i counted back from the pin and slid the tandoms back 5 holes. I reweighed and these were what my weights were.
    reweight steers 11,580
    drives 31,460
    trlr. 31,780

    You may need to adjust the number that you use to represent the holes on the trlr as different trailers have different size holes. The trailers we use are wabash dry vans and 225 works well for our trailers.

    This has taken out all the guess work for me. I still reweigh to verify my math but i have not had to adjust a second time in months. I hope this can be of use to any fellow drivers.
    brian
     
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  3. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    My last CAT scale ticket read;

    Steers- 12,500
    Drives- 30,500
    Trailer- 36,000

    All legal and good to go!...
     
  4. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Don't you feel guilty not crawling under your trailer with a hammer trying to beat the slider pins loose?:biggrin_2559: What amazes me are the guys who order a trailer spec'd exactly how they want with every bell and whistle available.........but get a sliding tandem.:biggrin_2554::biggrin_25526:
     
  5. Tardis

    Tardis Light Load Member

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    Of course that's just weight. There are also bridge calculations, limits on how far the king pin can be from the tandems and how much, or little, the truck can hang out behind the tandems. Seems like one of these will be broken if the inspector looks hard enough.
     
  6. American-Trucker

    American-Trucker Road Train Member

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    sure i supose you can do all that math, and still be wrong with a differant type of trailer......OR you could do it the right way, you shift 850lbs for every foot you move the pin. Much faster and easyer that way.




    American Trucker
     
  7. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    A few months ago I scaled at a pisslot on their Cat scale. I went in to pay and get the ticket and it read something like

    Steers- 13,200
    Drives- 31,500
    Trailer- 35,000

    The person behind the hotdog/soda pop checkout counter, (who also attends the scale and fuel desk), informed me something like "you're over on the trailer and are going to have to slide to make this legal."

    I said thanks....(grin)
     
  8. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Only if you can't add. :biggrin_2559: Who says that's the right way?

    Actually kidsdad method is the same thing I've been doing for years. Once you get the system down, you don't even have to reweigh. The only time I reweigh is if I'm pushing 80,000.

    The only thing different I do kidsdad is swipe my finger on the side of the dirty trailer to mark the hole. No need for a marker.

    Another trick kidsdad, alot of docks you have to slide your axles back. When you pull away, put the end of that last pallet about a hole past the back axle. See how close you get then. Of course there are odd loads, but that works for most identical pallet loads that aren't nose heavy. It's a game I play.

    Then again my last truck had a load pressure gauge. I scaled maybe 1-4 times a month. :)
     
  9. American-Trucker

    American-Trucker Road Train Member

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    i vary rarely scale as i have a gauge as well, and have only reweighed twice.

    Thats the right way because its physics it doesnt change, where as with counting holes, that will vary from trailer to trailer.




    American Trucker
     
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  10. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Or........you could pull a spread axle trailer and never slide anything or pay to scale!:biggrin_2559:

    Sad thing is you could have told him you have a spread and he still wouldn't have understood and would have gave you this look!:biggrin_2554:

    I bet 90% of the steering wheel holders have no idea why your trailer axles are attached like that.
     
  11. warhoop

    warhoop Light Load Member

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    Hey "Win-Mag do you have a dump valve on one trailer axle for those tight turns?
     
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