Got a daycab Pete with Air-Trac suspension....with a gosh darn mother freakin wheel hop. So far I've replaced: two trac bars, both torque rods, all the drive axle brake components. Since I've owned it it's been through two complete sets (brand new) of tires, I've had complete different sets of rims on it. There are balancing beads in all the tires AND centrimatic balancers. It ONLY hops when I'm running empty and IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY. Loaded, no matter the speed, it goes like a champ. Obviously, it's a suspension problem. But what the frick gives here?!?!?! There are no obvious signs of anything being loose, bent, missing, broken or cracked. Checked front end kingpins, seem ok. Replaced tie-rod ends several months ago. Tires wear fine, nothing unusual. When I'm on the brakes, there's no wobble as if there's an egg-shaped drum. I'm ready to throw a brick on the gas pedal and let it go off a bridge. I've resigned myself to the crappy air-trac ride, but this hop is driving me insane! Any suggestions are welcome...and if it's one that solves my issue, steak and beer on me.
*sigh*....Wheel hop question...
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Gambi80, Mar 15, 2013.
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you change the shocks?
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As stated above, change shocks, then put a dial indicator against each wheel with it jacked up off the ground, then rotate wheel to see if anything is out of round. I also had the same problem as you and found it to be an out of round front hub. The problem could also be your tires. Call all the alignment shops you can find and see if any of them do tire truing and balancing.
I can not tolerate a bouncing truck. I would run new tires a few thousand miles, then have them trued. It hurts to see new rubber being cut off, but the feeling of a super smooth ride, and knowing than the now smooth tires will last longer than the before bouncing tires makes up for the loss of rubber. I have had new tires that beat me to death. After truing and speed balancing it was the best riding truck I ever had, Did every truck I owned that way after that. -
When you did the brakes did you check/tighten the bearings? I don't think the Centrimatic's AND Counteract are a good idea, I've never done it myself but know a guy that tried it and didn't work at all. I'm not familiar with "air-trac" but could be a bushing out somewhere in the rear suspension, but if I was a betting man, I would check the rear slip shaft (on the short driveshaft between the rears) if it is dry(not enough grease,takes a ton) or siezed up it will beat you to death.
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The shocks are about a year old. When I had the brakes done, everything was replaced including wheel seals. I have a track-hoe at the farm, maybe I'll just pick up the whole rear end and run the truck in 5th gear or something.
Any ideas why it doesn't hop when loaded, only empty..??
edit: The air-trac is (per wheel) 2 leaf springs going from a shackle, over the axle to an air bag, then a trac bar from the axle to the shackle. The trac bar has the only bushings in the suspension. -
I'll bet the airbags are over inflated. -
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Some will tell you to use only balancing beads. -
I have aluminum outside, steel inside. Maybe I'll take off the centrimatics and see how it goes.
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I think Stranger has your answer. Jack up your drive axles, spin your tires and see if you have any wheels that are spinning out of round. Very easy and common to have tires slightly mis mounted on rims, and/or rims that are not perfectly centered on the hubs. Out of round wheels will cause your problems and explain why it is only when bobtailing, the trailer weight is enough to hold the truck down and dissipate the shake.
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