Series 60 and Schaeffer 700 15w40 syn blend UOA report

Well, here is the report from my first shot at Schaeffer 700 15w40 synthetic blend in my factory rebuilt Series 60. 200008 miles on the engine and 13733 miles on the oil. For those that like Zinc in their oil, combined with some moly for anti wear, this stuff sure has it. Compared to the used oil sample results I got with Delo, I think I'll stick with the Schaeffer.

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Will stretch out the drain a little next time and see how it looks. I could never get the Delo to go much beyond 15,000 before it started giving up.

 

I am using the 7000 15w40 syn blend. Forget getting the stuff online!!!!! Go on Schaeffer's site and locate a nearby rep. Any rep across the country can order up for you. 6 gal at $172 is criminal!!! I got current wholesale price list in front of me... 6 gallons of 7000 15w40 is $112.92. 6 gallons of 9000 5w40 is $127.62. I buy by the drum. A 30 gallon drum of 7000 15w40 is $551.70 a 55 drum is $980.65. For the 9000 5w40 a 30 drum is $627.00 and a 55 is $1118.15. My rep is Dan Dykema who lives near me. His email is molyoildan@gmail.com if you want to contact him, or get another rep if you can find one near you. You can locate one on Schaeffer's site. Either way, a rep will set you up with a wholesale business account and these prices are what you get. And for ANY order over $375, you get free shipping to your front door! And with a the 55 drums, they toss in 3 free oil sample kits.

The Schaeffer 7000 15w40 blend is a 25% Group IV PAO and Group II+ (that II+ group is similar to Delo's Isosyn tech stuff).

The Schaeffer 9000 5w40 is a blend of Group IV PAO and Group III. Now don't get all caught up in the "what is a true synthetic" nonsense. All group IV PAO motor oils require either some Group III or Group II in them to hold the additive package in suspension. Group IV is a strong base oil, but it will not hold add pack in suspension properly, so some other base oil has to be added to keep thing proper. And keep in mind, 40% or more of any motor oil is additive package. You can have a Group IV and a lousy additive package and I would rather have a Group III and a strong additive package.

Well, JohnP3, I have been using synthetics for several years in everything from my semi to my ag tractors to my personal vehicles. I have yet to have anything close to the issues you describe. I am quite sure, though, for every product that has ever been made, there will be a consumer that has had an issue. Just look at any product online and see the reviews. You can have 500 reviews with 5 stars, and there will always be a few with 1 star.

I am not sure about whether this stuff will increase my mpg. I didn't buy it for that. I bought it to provide good results in both UOA data and being able to extend the drains a little. If that happens, I have saved money. Appreciate your thoughts, but they are just one anecdotal experience in a huge amount of positive experiences by others. And since Schaeffer has been at this game longer than any other oil company in N. America, since 1839, I have no doubt that their products are ok. I am still convinced from what you described, there is a lot more to that story. Schaeffer has the distinction of being used in the first heavy truck engine to ever break 1 million miles without an overhaul. That is pure fact. Doesn't mean they are better than everyone else, just means they make solid products. And considering they are the ones who developed and supply the lubes for the Apache Attack Helicopter and they were the primary supplier of oils and lubes for the M1 Abrams tank during the Middle East Conflicts doesn't hurt their image either. I sure don't recall helicopters being grounded en masse because Schaeffer was in them. Nor do I recall tanks conking out all over the place because they had Schaeffer oil in them. Best I recall, we blistered Saddam's rear pretty good. And Shell Oil had to come to Schaeffer to develop an open gear lube for them because they couldn't make one that would meet a customer's needs. All documented and true.

But then, maybe Schaeffer is marketing an inferior product for Canadian use. Seems highly unlikely. Or someone slipped in an inferior oil and said it was Schaeffer. Who knows. But I suggest, JohnP3, that to make you sleep well at night, you don't use Schaeffer. Wouldn't want you to suffer physical ailments from excessive worrying.