Saia and Estes in Springfield, MO

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  1. KMB

    KMB Light Load Member

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    This might be a little long.

    A little more on my background. I’m from Canada. Been here in the U.S. since 2003. Since a little bitty kid, I’ve always liked trucks (tractor-trailers). 1994 and 1995 was when I worked on a farm hauling grain during the harvest seasons (I took time off from my regular job as an Architectural Draftsman). The trucks I drove were converted tractors that had the fifth-wheel removed and then a grain box and hoist were added. If I remember correctly the trucks I drove regular were a Freightliner FLD 112(?) (9 speed) and an International Eagle (10 speed). I also drove an old Mack (15 speed) for a few days.

    Working on the farm, I didn’t need a CDL, but in 1996, I decided to get my Canadian Class 1 license (equivalent/similar to a CDL-A). My regular job was very slow, so I thought I’d find a driving job. I went to a driving school, did the classroom portion, and since I had some experience driving, I did a shorter version of the driving portion. I remember passing my Class 1 driving test and getting my license on a Friday and then going back to my regular job the following Monday. From that Monday, it got busy at work and I was busy from then on to now/present. I know it sounds weird, but it’s the truth. My regular job slowed down enough for me to get my Class 1 license, then the next business day, it gets busy with the regular job. Why didn’t I still try getting a driving job? I just ‘felt led’ to stay drafting back then till recently.

    About a year or 2 later, I took time off again to ‘work’ on the same farm, this time for only about a week. I say ‘work’ because I wasn’t on the payroll, I just enjoyed doing it. But, the man I ‘worked’ for was also a good friend and he would not let me leave without giving me some money. This time they let me run a combine harvester, but also had me drive a truck pulling a B-train hopper bottom grain trailer for a few loads. For the life of me, I can’t remember what truck I drove then.

    In 1999, I drove team OTR with a friend of mine on a trip to pickup a combine harvester at Gleaner (at that time was in Independence, MO)(from Saskatchewan, Canada). It was in a Freightliner Century Class (13 speed). He let me do most of the driving. I believe it was the next year, that I took another trip with the same friend to pick up another combine harvester. Again he let me do most of the driving.

    I met my American wife a few years later, and decided to move across the line in 2003 to AR. When I went to get a U.S. license at the AR DMV office, I showed them my Canadian Class 1 license. They made a phone call to the DMV in Canada where I had got my license to see what the Class 1 license was about, and determined that it was the same/equivalent to a U.S. CDL-A. I paid the fee, got my pic taken, had the card printed, and was out the door with my CDL-A.

    On a few trips back home to Canada over the years, I’ve visited that same farm and if there’s a load of grain to be taken to the elevator, a buddy of mine would let me drive the load to the elevator.

    So that is why I’m thinking that any company will see me as not having any verifiable driving experience.

    There’s a few reasons, that I won’t get into the details, why I’m wanting to eventually get into driving full-time and out of my current work of Architectural Drafting (self-employed since moving to the U.S.). The dock to driver programs interest me because I’d like to keep Drafting for a little while longer and work part-time on a dock, and then go through as much of a dock to driver program as needed. I want/need to earn some extra money to knock down some debt before full-time driving…if possible. Working 4/5pm to 10/11pm dock shift after Drafting during the day for few months would work for me I’m thinking. I will be telling which ever company(s) I apply for up front that I do have a CDL-A and if I get to an interview, I'll explain my situation.
     
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  3. Maxgussam

    Maxgussam Light Load Member

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    Yes it did.
    It said hiring for dock workers.
    I don't know if it is still up or not.
     
  4. KMB

    KMB Light Load Member

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    I stand corrected. I thought it didn't say, but there was some small print. Thanks.
     
  5. motocross25

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    Haha it's not terrible. It just got to be Mickey Mouse rules and their take it or leave it attitude, and you could never do anything right. So after almost 7 years and as of about 3 weeks ago I took option 2. But yea I forgot Saia and XPO/Conway. Saia I think is alright. I'm not sure on their overtime policy or when they get it or if they get it. Estes is 55 hours. I have heard after 10 years at Saia they pickup your health insurance tab so that's cool. I haven't actually ever heard anything bad about them so that might be a lead you wanna pursue.
     
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  6. rodman71

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    That second sentence ain't nothing but the truth. I'm almost tired of them after a year and a half. Saia gets OT after 45 but they make a little less than estes but its all about the same at the end of the day.
     
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  7. motocross25

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    I thought it was just our terminal. Yea when I put in my notice I was the 12th person to quit/ retire early this year. And it's only June.
     
  8. Maxgussam

    Maxgussam Light Load Member

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    You must have been a St. Louis city driver.
    I have heard that the city supervisor is a real piece of work.
     
  9. motocross25

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    Wow! You nailed it bud. Word must be out. Yea dude everything was great for 6 years then it went downhill FAST. I kept thinkin surely this can't keep going on Richmond has GOT to see what's happening and guys are peeling off left and right. Well they either didn't, or didn't care, and I couldn't wait it out anymore. I put in my notice, then MAGICALLY I found myself downtown everyday with a liftgate pup. And you know as well as I do. Nothing good comes from the liftgate pup. So I went in on that Thursday and told em "I was suppose to make it till next Friday, I can't make it to this Friday" and turned in my stuff. Shame too cuz it was a good job most days, and holidays off and all that. Screw it. I'm 30 years old I don't need to be treated like I'm in grade school again.
     
  10. Evie3

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    So sorry to hear this. My son is a relatively new Estes employee on the East coast (got his CDL in January) and they are treating him fairly based on what he has told me. Aside from pay and benefits that you mentioned, one thing I was impressed with looking into the company when he got the job offer is that they have a paid corporate chaplain - you don't see that every day. I guess in any company that size you are going to have the occasional rogue employee/bad manager that falls through the cracks. The person who was my son's trainer at a different company was one of those rogue employees. Really awful to be on the receiving end of that. I'm sure you'll do fine wherever you wind up.



     
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