Ryder 26' truck rental. Any requirement for hauling someone else stuff for money?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by wrx12, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. wrx12

    wrx12 Bobtail Member

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    I'm renting Ryder 26' truck to transport 3 loads (furniture) from 3 different customers. I assume I'm required to stop at weight stations correct? What am I required to have?



    I'm trying to make sure this will be 100% legal.
     
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  3. bubbavirus

    bubbavirus Medium Load Member

    Probably a class b license for starts.
     
  4. tirednaz

    tirednaz Heavy Load Member

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    I would say if you do not have the authority MC# or DOT# to operate as a mover of household goods the permits and insurance the proper licence for the vehicle your operating. I would say the idea of even slowing down for a coop is out of the question.
     
  5. yarddogmbw

    yarddogmbw Light Load Member

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    I was told by an Ohio DOT officer that if you are hauling something for money in a rental truck you are required to stop a the weigh stations. I did not get in to detail with him about what else is required as far as dot or mc number.
     
  6. wrx12

    wrx12 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks,
    so from what you are saying even though I'm renting their truck I have to have MC# and DOT#?

    Also in regards to insurance I will use theirs $24 per day for 1 million dollar coverage. (Cheaper than what I would pay).
     
  7. tirednaz

    tirednaz Heavy Load Member

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    Yes, You are renting the truck from them to operate. You are responsible to function under the FMCSA requirements.
     
  8. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    Yep. You need the entire kit n caboodle. You're engaging in interstate commerce for profit and as such are bound by DOT laws governing such. Don't get caught. The fines are steep. Also, if something goes wrong, such as an accident or such, chances are you will get caught and then you're in a world of problems.
     
  9. wrx12

    wrx12 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks, I got this information from the FMCSA website.


    Your FMCSA classifications:
    Interstate Motor Carrier
    For-hire Property Carrier


    You will need to complete the following forms or processes:
    √ Forms/Processes
    MCS-150 (USDOT Number)
    OP-1 (Motor Property Carrier and Broker Authority, $300.00 per authority)
    BOC-3 (Designate Process Agent)
    Arrange for Insurance


    Regarding arranging for insurance will the liability insurance from Ryder be sufficient?
     
  10. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    OK a few questions:

    1 - are you doing this as a company or as a private individual?

    2 - are you picking up the loads to bring back to your shop to repair or fix them or resell them?

    3 - are you going out of state?
     
  11. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    If you are not an established business and just earning a quick buck on these three loads and that's it I wouldn't worry about it. Thousands of people move everyday in Ryders. The first thing they have to do is prove you are operating for money. I doubt you'll be getting a W-2 or 1099.

    Are they friends or something? It's not everyday someone would trust a mover with a rental. It's too easy for them to disappear with your stuff.

    If you plan on doing this regularly then yes you'll have to get legal.

    If you want to make some extra money Uhaul does make arrangements for a subcontract crew to come to your house and load your stuff for you. Then the owner does the driving. Then they arrange for a crew to unload you at the other end.

    You can put together a muscle crew and hook up with Uhaul and strictly load/unload trucks. I forget I think I paid a crew $150 last time I moved. They had my truck loaded in an hour. Do a few a day and you can make some decent money.

    I found them on the Uhaul website. They do the advertising for you. I'm sure you can find a link there how to do such a thing.

    When you start running a rental round trip it cost some serious money. It's close to $1.40 a mile when you add everything up. It's cheaper to pay a moving company.
     
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