Roehl Question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Gypsy27, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. Gypsy27

    Gypsy27 Light Load Member

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    I read in some other threads that Roehl makes new CDL grads that got their CDL from another school, i.e. you already have your CDL when going to orientation, sign a contract that says if you leave or if Roehl lets you go for any reason before 75,000 miles that you owe them over $3,000.

    Is Roehl still requiring this contract for people who already have their CDL?
     
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  3. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    it is i think a tuition reimbursement agreement.
    in other words, you got your CDL someplace, at some school, and as a hiring sort of bonus, they will pay that off for you. if you leave before your time is up, then they want that money back.
    seems reasonable to me, for a free education.
     
  4. Gypsy27

    Gypsy27 Light Load Member

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    If that is the case, you are returning tuition reimbursement I would be ok with that, but my understanding is they are charging you a $3000+ fee for the time from orientation until you get into your own truck even if you already have your own Cdl and are a recent grad. I am trying to get ahold of a recruiter to get some clarification.

    Here is the thread
    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr.../roehl-begins-contracts-to-work-there.262580/




     
  5. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    They are going to charge you for their cost to hire you if you don't stay 6 months?.

    I have been through their website before and don't recall seeing anything like that. Sounds bizarre to say the least.
     
  6. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    Well there is nothing on the website that I could find. If this is a contract they are springing on new hires when they show up for orientation that is very sad indeed. I hope that isn't the case as Roehl were one of the companies I was interested in.

    I am not entering into any contract where I owe money if I am terminated from a company. What is to stop them waiting until I drive 74,999 miles, call me in, claim that I was seen breaking a company rule and handing me my walking papers...and a bill for $3,000?.
     
  7. Gypsy27

    Gypsy27 Light Load Member

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    Here is a copy from the other thread.

    It's a little confusing because it looks like they are talking about a few different items in the same document, but it does seem like they are charging you $3130 for what they call the Safety and Job Skills Training Program. One item that I really don't like is they can fire you for no cause and you still owe the money if you haven't completed the 75,000 miles.

    "Congratulations on your acceptance into the Roehl Transport Safety and Job Skills Training Program (“SJSTP”)! This powerful and effective education and training program will prepare you for a successful career as a heavy duty truck driver.

    We’ve made tuition reimbursement a part of our training program. This program relieves you from the heavy financial burden of paying for your schooling because we will reimburse you the cost of your tuition at the rate of $150.00 per month for attending an approved truck driving school, up to a maximum amount of $6,000. You earn tuition reimbursement when you complete 75,000 paid solo miles. Please provide us with a paid and itemized receipt showing the amount of tuition you paid and we’ll get started on reimbursing you.

    You will acquire valuable experience, training, and information concerning the competent, safe, and efficient operation of tractor/trailers. Roehl will expend a significant amount of time, money, and effort to provide you with first class job training through our program.

    To help you out financially while you’re learning how to be successful as a heavy duty truck driver, we’ll provide you with a $1,500.00 advance as a longevity bonus to help ensure you’ve got good “cash flow” during the early part of you driving career.

    This letter explains our financial commitments to one another. As much as we want to avoid the language of lawyers, we have to be particular about using precise language to govern this financial relationship, which is what we will explain next.

    This agreement is between you and Roehl.

    Credit Line. On this date, in return for the value you receive from the SJSTP, you promise to repay to Roehl for the value of the SJSTP, the sum of $3,130.00, which Roehl has expended for payment on your behalf for the SJSTP.

    Advance on pay. You’ll earn $1,500.00 in bonus pay upon completion of driving 75,000 paid solo miles for us. We’ll advance you your $1500.00 bonus when you are actively at work in five installments: $200.00 the first week following your graduation from Phase 2 then, $100.00 per week for the next three weeks and finally, $1,000.00 the first week following 4 months of employment.

    Interest Charge. Roehl will impose a 0% interest charge per month on any unpaid balance when and if you are employed by Roehl. If you do not satisfy the agreement, interest will accrue at the maximum rate allowed by law.

    Promise to Pay. By signing this agreement, you promise to repay to Roehl the value of the SJSTP, tuition we’ve reimbursed you that you have not yet earned, and any advances on your pay received but not yet earned if you do not complete 75,000 paid solo miles for any reason which shall include, but is not limited to termination (with or without cause), voluntary termination by you, or inability to work for any reason. This debt goes away when you have completed 75,000 paid solo miles.

    You begin earning paid solo miles after your graduation date from Phase 2 Training and when you receive your first load assignment.

    Deduction of Amounts Owed From Wages. By signing this agreement and acknowledgement of pay advance, you agree to allow Roehl to offset and deduct any and all amounts owed by you from any pay owed by Roehl to you pursuant to this agreement, provided that any deduction will not contravene state or federal law or reduce your wage to the extent prohibited by any state or federal law.

    You are still obligated to pay Roehl for any balance owed for the value of training that is not deducted from your pay and any advances on your pay received but not yet earned. Roehl can bring a claim against you for any sum or sums owed to Roehl. You agree that if Roehl is forced to bring such a claim, Roehl shall be entitled to recover all costs and expenses incurred in connection with that claim and the collection efforts leading up to it, including but not limited to reasonable attorney fees.

    If Roehl is not able to recover the entire balance owed for the value of training and for any advances on your pay that you received but did not yet earn then, you agree to repay these amounts within thirty (30) days of your separation date.

    Default. If you fail to repay the entire balance within thirty (30) days following your separation date, you understand and agree that Roehl will immediately begin collection proceedings to recover the entire unpaid balance.

    If this agreement or pay advance or any part thereof is not paid when due and is placed in the hands of an attorney for collection, or if this agreement or pay advance is collected by lawsuit or through other proceedings, you agree to pay the reasonable attorney’s fee and court costs associated with collection efforts. Should you not satisfy the agreement, interest will accrue at the maximum rate allowed by law.

    Term. This agreement has a stated term, which begins on the date you sign it and is ongoing until you have satisfied the terms of this agreement.

    Waiver. This agreement is the final agreement between the parties and may not be contradicted by evidence of prior, contemporaneous, or subsequent oral agreements of the parties. There are no unwritten oral agreements between the parties.

    Applicable Law. You acknowledge that the aforementioned debt exists and know of no reason why the debt is not a valid debt, or of any defenses to your obligation to repay the debt. This agreement and the rights and obligations of the parties to it shall be governed by and construed and interpreted in all respects with the laws of the State of Wisconsin.

    I understand that by signing this agreement, I agree to the terms of this agreement."
     
    Redtwin Thanks this.
  8. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    If that is disclosed before you accept the job and head out for orientation, then fair enough. It would appear they want employees to repay the cost of training if they don't do 75,000 miles. On the face of it that doesn't sound unreasonable, the issue is that Roehl have control over that 75K and could extend the time it takes to get to 75K (causing you to quit) or fire you before you even reach it at which point you now owe them money and have probably hampered your future job prospects

    If the wording in the contract were such that you would only be responsible if you resigned voluntarily or repeatedly turned down loads/miles then I might consider it, but otherwise, Roehl are no longer of interest to me.

    Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
     
  9. Eddiec

    Eddiec Road Train Member

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    What did Roehl say when you asked them about it?
     
  10. Gypsy27

    Gypsy27 Light Load Member

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    I am waiting to hear back.
     
  11. Eddiec

    Eddiec Road Train Member

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    Make sure it is in writing and you get the persons name giving you the answer.
     
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