replace thermostat as part of PM

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  1. gunner76

    gunner76 Medium Load Member

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    I got bored sitting in line the other day and started reading the Cat book that came with my truck. It says to replace the thermostat every 200k as part of the normal PM. Is this really needed? I have to drain the coolant down to replace one of the silicon hoses at the bottom of the engine and was going to do the stats too, but am hesitant to do it because they are working fine and with my luck I would change them and end up causing a leak or other problem I don't have now. I talked to a couple of different mechanics and the one who works at a dealership said it would be a good idea to change them, but the other one who is the head mechanic for a small company that owns 30 trucks said they only change them if they quit working.
    Between myself and my dad we've run 4 trucks well over 1 million miles and have never had a thermostat go bad(3 cummins,1cat). The mechanic from the small fleet said that if a guy followed the PM chart to the letter the truck would be in the shop all the time. He also said sometimes doing a job that isn't needed but you think would help can cause bigger problems than you had before, which I've had happen to me before.

    What do all you guys do with stuff like this, follow the PM chart to the letter or modify it to what works in the real world.

    BTW the engine is a C15 Acert with 300k.
     
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  3. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    "If it aint broke then don't fix it"
     
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  4. Joe the Milkman

    Joe the Milkman Bobtail Member

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    CAT engines will let you know when you need new thermo. I drive slip seat in a fleet of about 45 tractors, and it's obvious. You're running cool then all of a sudden ya need to flip on the fan. Then it runs another 100 miles cool, then needs to be flipped on again. When there's no rhyme to the reason why it's cool or hot, then it's time.
     
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  5. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Some of those bolts in the thermostat housing like to get seized up after a few years. If you are draining the coolant, it would be cheap insurance to change them now and put some anti seize on the bolts. Like the saying goes, an ounce of prevention...
     
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  6. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    I made the mistake of changing my thermo's over 10 years ago. I was told to change just cause they were original. the temp always worked great. after new thermo's. never the same. seems anything original works longer & better than replacements. my old temp would hold 190 if on a steep hill & I put the manual fan on, it would drop from 200 to 190 real quick while going up hill with 80,000 lbs. in your case I would just put a couple spare parks in side pocket, but not change anything that is working. you can get 2-3 bad thermostats in a row. quality is not in the parts anymore.
     
  7. 112racing

    112racing Road Train Member

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    i used to change mine every time i flushed the cooling system about every 2 years
     
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  8. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    That is what parts warranty is for.
     
  9. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    NO one warranties the labor though.
     
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  10. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Ok well, that's what happens when you diy. If something is wrong with the part and you don't want to change it, who's fault is that?
     
  11. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    Here is why I say if it is not broke do not fix it.. I am talking from experience. I have a 95' intl. I am the preventative maint type of guy. I also have learned quite a bit about certain parts. for example looking over my truck one day, I decided to replace one of my many air valves. it was 14 years old. still worked fine. just the age & the looks made me want to replace. the o.e.m. replacement was plastic & looked like a china cheap part. it lasted a lil more than a year, then started leaking. why did I replace? well for $10.00 I figured good preventative maint. I have done this many times, just to find the original part was better off in place until it no longer functioned. I have found a co that makes the metal valves. as far as many other parts. I do believe in replacing before they go bad, like belts hoses, batteries, thermostats are just not on my list. I guess it depends on how easy it is to change. if it is very difficult, then I would change them when in the engine, but if not hard at all do do, I would leave them in, if they work properly now.
     
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