Red flags required? 48' trailer 2.5 overhang

Per FMCSA 393.87 you need flags For anything that extends beyond the sides 4" and at 4' rear overhang

 

California allows rear overhang of up to 2/3rds of your wheelbase, measured from the last tractor axle to the last trailer or dolly axle. Not sure how that changes when you are playing with setups like you big boys play with with jeeps and such, but with basic tractor trailer or tractor dolly setups, that's how it's measured. On a 48 set up the way mine is it gives me roughly 27 feet of rear over hang that's legal.

If the load is a permit load,anything over 25 feet of overhang requires a rear pilot car.

Have to remember that overhang is measured from the last point of support on the load, not necessarily the back of the trailer.

So yeah, I can haul poles that are 80 feet long without so much as a permit, but take those to the midwest and states start screeching about needing pilot cars...

Go figure.

 

Ohio is 4' of rear overhang before flagging but you can not exceed 53' load or trailer.

 

I might be mixing up states, is Ohio one of the states that measures from the front of the trailer to the back of the load when you are overhanging front and rear?

 

53' trailer or load, a 53' trailer can have no overhang front or rear.

 

What I mean though, is there are some states that measure from the front of the trailer, so if you have a 48 foot trailer with 4 feet off the front and 4 off the back they still treat it as a 52 foot load.

 

That's what I'm saying, 53' period. You cannot exceed 53' load or trailer, if you have a 48' trailer with 4' over the front and 4' over the back your 56' long so your in violation. You cannot exceed 53' period load or trailer irregardless of the loads position.

 

Your Allowed overhang on front of trailer in Ohio......

 

This is for Ohio.....I don't know how to copy and paste the whole thing.....

Width: 8'6" Height: 13'6 Length: 53' semi-trailer and load
Overhang: 53’ semi-trailer and load including rear overhang (overhang off front of trailer does not count) Weight: 80,000 Gross Single – 20,000 Tandem – 34,000 Tridem – 48,000.

 

License/Prorate/Fuel: Ohio is a member of the IRP and IFTA.

Intrastate Authority: A PUCO (Public Utilities Commission of Ohio) permit is required. This can be ordered by the Permits Department. Call Missoula for assistance.

OHIO O/D PERMITS INFORMATION PERMITS: Permits valid for five days. Must have permit prior to entering the state.

OPERATING TIME: Daytime only for over dimensional loads, Overweight only may travel 24 hours a day provided they can keep up with traffic. Loads over 12' wide are permitted until 3:00 PM on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and on Fridays from April 1 through November 30.

RESTRICTED TRAVEL: Movement of vehicles/loads over 12 feet wide is prohibited within many counties between 6:30 a.m. – 9:00 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. – 6:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. For the list of counties, refer to the Ohio Provisions Form OS-1A, a required permit accompaniment. O/D loads are usually not allowed to travel from noon the weekday before major holidays until sunrise the following weekday. Note: Ohio will now allow the driver to stop at any state highway intersection for food, fuel or rest provided the hauler does not travel more than 1 mile from interstate and doesn’t cross under/over any structure.

OHIO TURNPIKE: Driver must phone from pullover area to get clearance for the Turnpike. Permits are issued at the entering toll plaza. Maximum width is 10 feet for continuous travel. Over 11' wide or over 112' long requires pilot car and prior authorization. Maximum height is 13'6". Maximum length without pre-approval is 75’. Maximum gross weight allowed is 90,000 pounds without 2-day pre-approval. Toll charge usually about $25 for standard trip. Overweight charges are additional, approximately $70.00 for up to 90,000 pounds to travel the length of the turnpike.

LEGAL DIMENSIONS:

Width: 8'6" Height: 13'6 Length: 53' semi-trailer and load
Overhang: 53’ semi-trailer and load including rear overhang (overhang off front of trailer does not count) Weight: 80,000 Gross Single – 20,000 Tandem – 34,000 Tridem – 48,000.

ROUTINE PERMIT LIMITS:

Width: 14' Height: 14'6" Ohio won't permit over 14'6" overall height on a step deck when it could on a lower trailer. "Any move over 14'10" high shall be required to coordinate the move with the owners of all overhead signs, signals, utilities, etc., which may obstruct safe, clear movement." Moves over 15'6" are not permitted in Ohio.
Length: No set maximum
Weight: Single – 29,000 (distance of 16' or more from an adjacent axle) Tandem – 36,000 (Spacing equal to or less than 4’1”) to 50,000 (Spacing more than 4’1”) Tridem – 60,000 (4’1” minimum spacing) Quad – 60,000 (spacing 4’) 80,000 (Spacing 4’1” or greater)
Note: All axles must be down on overweight loads. Lift axles must carry within 2,000 pounds of amount of weight of adjacent fixed axles. Ohio has eliminated the requirement that lift axle controls must be outside the truck cab. Loads exceeding these dimensions are considered superloads.

ESCORTS:

Width: Over 13' – 1 escort; over 14'6" – 2 escorts; over 16' – police escort; over 13' and over 120,000 pounds GVW – police escort Length: Over 90' – 1 escort
Height: Over 14'6" – 1 escort w/ high pole; over 14'10" – 2 escorts; police escort for height depends on routes.
Two escorts required if more than one of these conditions exist (for example, over 90' long and over 13' wide).

MISCELLANEOUS: Dozer with blade over 12' wide is restricted to within a 25 mile radius of the point of origin unless a traffic protector device is used. Without protector, the blade must be removed and hauled separately. Blades over 14' wide not permitted to move unless a traffic protector is used, or blade must be removed and hauled separately. Utility poles and steel pipe are exempt from permit for length, but not beams and other materials.

SIGNS, FLAGS & LIGHTS: "Oversize Load" sign is required on front and rear of all oversized vehicles when vehicle or load is over 10' wide, over 14'6" high, or over legal length. Flags are to be displayed on all overdimensional vehicles and loads. Overwidth loads should bear flags at each corner of the vehicle or load, and two flags at the widest extremities of the vehicle or load. Overlength vehicles/loads and loads with a rear overhang of 4' or more shall display a single flag at the extreme rear if the over length or projecting part is two feet wide or less, and two flags if wider than 2 feet to indicate, located to indicate the maximum width. Overhang should be lighted at night. Headlights must be on during the movement of any O/D vehicle or load.