Rates? Legality of disclosure.

Yes they have to show you what they billed the customer if you are being paid a percentage of the rate for your services. Keep in mind they do nt like that and it will most likely result in your dismissal from the company. As for the rejected load it depends on WHY it was rejected. was it something you did, should have done or was it the shipper, keeping in mind once you sign for the load at the shippers you're saying that everything was above board and correct. a slipper slope at best. More details would be helpful

 

My answer is based on what you’ve said in other posts about leasing to a carrier.

Yes you can ask and a reputable company will have no issue showing the paperwork to you. I’ve asked a couple times just to make sure everything was kosher and was shown and it matched what I was told.

As stated above me, the issue of why the load was rejected will come into play. If it was something you did or didn’t do then basically you hauled it for free. There’s no one answer for how anything will be handled, it all depends on the situation. The answers range from it’s going to cost you some time and fuel money with no income on one end to you getting paid to haul load back to the shipper on top of what you were getting paid to haul it in the first place.

 

With today's technology, can't someone just change the numbers? In other words, how do you know it's the "original" Rate Con, or whatever docs you're asking for?

 

They can, but I don’t see a company fabricating a fake rate con to have just in case someone walks in and wants to see it. That would be a lot if extra work. If you’re someplace that has a lot of their own freight it doesn’t take long to learn what pays what and the fuel surcharge will be the only difference.

 

I'll give you an answer but a lot of people won't like it. Run your own business. Eliminate middle men. Dispatchers. Factoring companies. All of that.

Negotiate your own destiny. Do the leg work, negotiate the rate on your own, receive rate cons directly from broker/customer to your inbox, move the freight, bill the customer, receive the payment. All of it yours.

If you don't feel you have the time or ability to do this then first, slow down. Part of your job as an owner operator is negotiation, part is accounting. All is relationships. Run less freight and work harder on winning it. Any successful owner op will tell you that the easiest thing they do is driving the truck.

Second, book more loads. Take yourself through the process of talking to brokers/customers as often as you can . Learn to sell yourself. Learn your lanes.
Learn to listen. Learn what to say to them. Learn what to NEVER say to them. This is the only way to get good at anything. Repitition.

Example "Hey, I can run this one for you. It's on my way home". Never never. This is not the path to riches. Etc. Etc.

 

I can see a lot of the 1099s that pay percentage doing this. Reducing the line haul on each load by even 1% could mean $1,000-1,500 per truck per year.

It doesn't take long - we have a 'scrapping' program that pulls the pertinent information out of an email and creates a boiler plate BOL. It wouldn't be hard to do the same with a rate con. Driver asks for it, company says "sure, I'll have accounts receivable email it over". That gives them at least an hour to fudge it up, but if they wanted to they could stretch it out a few days to give themselves time to forge what they need.

 

All a driver has to do is ask the broker to email them a copy of the rate con then they know exactly what the load paid. I was always leased to carriers as an owner operator and was never clueless about what a brokered load paid. In fact I negotiated the linehaul rate on every single one of those. On direct freight to the carrier, well, good luck, hopefully you're leased to a good carrier that takes care of its owner operators and is honest. Hard to find one of those.

 

The times I asked was in person while I was standing there. I doubt I’d trust anyone that can’t show what is asked within a minute or so. I don’t see why anyone would lease to a place to run load board freight anyway, but that’s just me.

 

In my situation I was in Tennessee and leasing to a carrier in Wisconsin. Carriers in Tennessee were crooks so I'm not leasing on to thieves. The choice was easy. If I lived in Wisconsin I'd be buying a brand new Peterbilt or Kenworth every few years and living good leased on in steady direct freigh like the guys who lived up there were doing. Where I was at, off the main lanes, brokered was where it was at so that'swhat I did. There was never any mystery what the freight paid because I was chief negotiator. The settlement hit my bank every couple of days, excitepting weekends and after early hours lol. None of that "wait a week or two BS". Might have been a small carrier but there was no slow pay BS like at every other carrier.