Rachet Binders

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by SHC, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    Today i decided to go buy some new rachet binders. After talking with many guys, they all suggested them over the recoil-less snap binders. So I now have 6 of the recoil-less binders, and just picked up 6 of the Durabuilt ratcheting binders. I went with the smaller 3/8 style and they are rated for 6600#....will this be enough?? They have another set at 7,300# but they are $10 more each, and then the 9,200#'s for $14 more. The recoil-less are rated at 6600#'s so i figured the smaller ones would be ok. What ya think??
     
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  3. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    I'da done the same. My spools and chain ties are rated for 5400 WWL, so any binder over that rating is overkill and extra money IMO.
     
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  4. 07-379Pete

    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    You'll be fine. The bigger binders would be over kill if your chains or tie down points are rated far less. If your tie down point is rated at 5600 pounds and your chain and binder is rated at 10000pounds you will have to go be the weakest link in the tie down system, being the tie down point in this case.
     
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  5. SHC

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    We run a lot of machinery and just wanted to make sure I was ok. i figured it was but ya never know. I think 6,600# is plenty. If it requires more than that, I will just have to make sure it pays well enough to buy them ;)
     
  6. schmud0811

    schmud0811 Medium Load Member

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    IMHO you did good. My goal for our fleet is to go to grade 70 3/8 chain which has a WWL of 6600 pounds.(which your binders you bought are good for)

    My favorite binders so far a durabilt. They have the longest threads of them all.

    Right now I have some Ancra binders and some Kindeyene safety binders to evaluate.(well have the drivers evaluate)

    I like snap binders myself for most loads, but I have to admit ratchet binders are way safer, but It is easier to overwork your chains with ratchet binders especially with 5/16" chain.
    07-379 brought up a good point about the rating of your anchor points
     
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  7. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    I prefer the snap binders and have the Lebus brand. I myself dont like the rachet type only cause it's more work spinning them to put on or removing and they take up more room in my storage box.. With my lebus snap binder's I just used an extra cheater bar(longer) for more leverage and will do just as good(tightness) as the rachet type. I have broken chain links twice in the past doing this method.
     
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  8. SHC

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    Well we haul a lot of plate steel and I just figured it would be easier to use the ratchet binders on a 2' stack than the snap binders (which are Durabilt as well). On the machinery I am more likely to use the snap binders I thing as i do not need to be pulling out a d-ring or busting a j-hook on a brand new $40,000 skid-steer.
     
  9. heavyhaulerss

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    I have my original columbus mckinnon 3/8 binders & always used 3/8 chains, but the d.o.t. told me if I upgraded to the 9200lb wll binder & my 3/8 chains I could haul 52,000 lb coil with 4 chains & be legal. I never haul that heavy, the most is 48,000 but with that I still use 5 chains & binders. never tried the snap binder type. I use both, only have 3- 1/2 9200lb binders, caus I got them on sale for $29.00 each. will get more when on sale again.
     
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  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Yup...what most everyone else is saying. Your securement is only as strong as the weakest link, so as long as your binders meet or exceed the limits of the chains and securement points on the trailer, they are more than big enough to do the job and anything larger would be a waste of your hard earned money.

    Now if you haul the really heavy stuff and have chains rated higher, and the trailers you pull have D-rings to attach the chains to that are rated higher, then you would benefit from the heavier rated binders.....but for general flatbed use, 6600# rating is more than sufficient.
     
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  11. heavyhaulerss

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    When the d.o.t. checks my securement they always check the binder & the chain rating. never in 12 years & dozens of checks have they ever checked any other than those 2. I hook to the rub rail, which is does not have a load limit posted on it. some that have D-rings may have it stamped on to the rings, but even when I had my built in tie downs, you could not find a load limit on it. if you have a flat with chains tied to the rub rail, my experience, is any officer, will look at the chain & binder only. I know the strongest point is only as good as it's weakest link, but, think about this. ever see a flat bedder have his straps or his chains go all the way thru his rubrail & hook to the lower center I beams? I have. now what is the load limit rating on those I beams being tugged from the side? in opposite directions? what about if you loop thru the rubrail & wrap chain around several stake pipe spools, do you increase the load limit? how would a D.O.T. calculate that? then the D.O.T. could look at the bolts holding down the D-ring, what is the load limit of the bolt's?or the weld? and on and on. so my opinion & Experience is the chains & binders have to have readable identifiers on them, that's all. now the amount of chains & their location is another topic.
     
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